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FRED HALE SR. 01-31-2012 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1148411)
Yeah, it's pretty much already legal for those who really benefit from it medicinally and also those who just wanna smoke up (by having "back pain" or whatever) if they live in the right state.
My non-smoker opinion is that the only things that should change is to eliminate the potential for jailing casual users (which has mostly already happened) and it would also be nice to let them grow a certain amount of their own stuff no matter where they live.

I completely agree with everything you've just said. I think the ability to grow on your own would be a positive for some, but there is alot of hard work that goes into doing it right.

Engine 01-31-2012 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1148414)
I completely agree with everything you've just said. I think the ability to grow on your own would be a positive for some, but there is alot of hard work that goes into doing it right.

Well, that's the grower's responsibility. With half a brain and a fraction of the cost of buying, a casual user can grow the best product in the world and should be allowed to for personal use.

Also, I should amend my previous statement and say that my non-smoker opinion is that possessing and growing reasonable quantities should be completely decriminalized everywhere (i.e not even just be misdemeanor crimes, which they are now in most places). This would make potheads happy, right?

What needs to stop is the violent criminal element of pot production and distribution as well as the unfair criminalization of casual use.

Mrd00d 01-31-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1148432)
Well, that's the grower's responsibility. With half a brain and a fraction of the cost of buying, a casual user can grow the best product in the world and should be allowed to for personal use.

Also, I should amend my previous statement and say that my non-smoker opinion is that possessing and growing reasonable quantities should be completely decriminalized everywhere (i.e not even just be misdemeanor crimes, which they are now in most places). This would make potheads happy, right?

What needs to stop is the violent criminal element of pot production and distribution as well as the unfair criminalization of casual use.

Engine for president! Engine 2012. Expect at least one write-in vote for 'Engine' this year.

blastingas10 02-02-2012 04:12 PM

I would like for anyone who is anti-marijuana to give me one logical reason why alcohol should be legal when marijuana is illegal.

Many reports state that about 73% of felonies are alcohol-related.

FETCHER. 02-02-2012 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by drug-aware.com
World Health Organisation estimated that globally 1.8 million people’s deaths every year are directly attributable to alcohol consumption.

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Alcohol abuse, as a cause of death in the UK, has been estimated at 8000 – 40,000 annually

Alcohol 0 - 1 Cannabis.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-02-2012 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1149361)

Many reports state that about 73% of felonies are alcohol-related.

Maybe because alcohol is legal & freely available.

someonecompletelyrandom 02-02-2012 05:51 PM

Marijuana is illegal and freely available. Most of the crime associated with it occurs because of its illegal status.

I enjoy drinking a lot but I have to admit I find it far more hazardous, personally speaking. But then again I don't really enjoy getting intoxicated with depesssents anymore since I discovered getting high.

hip hop bunny hop 02-02-2012 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1149361)
I would like for anyone who is anti-marijuana to give me one logical reason why alcohol should be legal when marijuana is illegal.

Many reports state that about 73% of felonies are alcohol-related.

Out of all intoxicants, Alcohol is the most likely to get its users in the hospital. Marijuana is #2. And whereas Alcohol has a long and storied use in American culture, Marijuana has been favored by elements of the "counter-culture" - that is, degenerates & the anti-social. Consequently, I favor increasing the penalties associated with its use as it's a useful method of keeping these undesirables off the street.

blastingas10 02-02-2012 06:11 PM

I don't even smoke anymore but I'd be an idiot if I said that marijuana is a more dangerous drug than alcohol. The effects that alcohol has on people has nothing to do with it's legal status. As Conan said, marijuana is freely available and millions smoke it, so why aren't there as many problems with it as there are with alcohol? Because marijuana doesn't effect people in negative ways like alcohol does. That's a fact.

About 3 million violent crimes occur each year in which victims perceive the offender to have been drinking at the time of the offense.

Two-thirds of victims who suffered violence by an intimate (a current or former spouse, boyfriend, or girlfriend) reported that alcohol had been a factor.

Among spouse victims, 3 out of 4 incidents were reported to have involved an offender who had been drinking.

A Harvard School of Public Heath study found that 72 percent of college rapes occurred when the female was too intoxicated by alcohol to resist/consent.

“Cannabis differs from alcohol … in one major respect. It does not seem to increase risk-taking behavior. This means that cannabis rarely contributes to violence either to others or to oneself, whereas alcohol use is a major factor in deliberate self-harm, domestic accidents and violence.” Source: British Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs


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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1149390)
Out of all intoxicants, Alcohol is the most likely to get its users in the hospital. Marijuana is #2. And whereas Alcohol has a long and storied use in American culture, Marijuana has been favored by elements of the "counter-culture" - that is, degenerates & the anti-social. Consequently, I favor increasing the penalties associated with its use as it's a useful method of keeping these undesirables off the street.

:stupid:

:laughing:

Nothing personal but if you think marijuana is a worse drug than alcohol, you're an idiot.

FETCHER. 02-02-2012 06:15 PM

What I want to know is, what kind of stoned mess would go to the hospital for being high. Psch, rookie stoners.


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