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Old 11-05-2010, 12:57 AM   #441 (permalink)
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Old 11-05-2010, 06:50 AM   #442 (permalink)
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Old 11-05-2010, 08:42 AM   #443 (permalink)
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Although marijuana have some medical benefits, it is still very risky to legalize that dangerous thing.
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Old 11-05-2010, 09:19 AM   #444 (permalink)
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If they did legalize it they would tax the hell out of it. I rather it just still be illegal save my money.
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Old 11-05-2010, 10:19 AM   #445 (permalink)
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I'm against the US legalizing it, it would ruin the economy here in BC and we'd lose 20,000 jobs. As for Canada legalizing it, not strongly opposed or for it. If it was regulated I think it would be good.
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Old 11-06-2010, 10:20 PM   #446 (permalink)
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You seem to completely detach the government from the people, but you live in a democracy. Doesn't money to the government mean more money to the people, possibly in the shape of better public schools and roads? That's how we'd see it over here at least.
You raise a great point.

While certainly the money raised will help with costs of running the government and providing for the people, there are two concerns.

1- It will not be done in a way that has "the peoples" best interest in mind with this specific law

2- In the US we are very jaded about what the governement does with our taxes. There is no doubt they do the minumum to keep up roads and other public services. They sure do find a way to take expensive trips to Hawai'i and fancy dinners, and helicopter rides, etc. This money won't go to keep music and arts in schools. It won't go to make my vehicle registration cheaper.

I recently incorporated a business in California. It was supposed to take one month, but took 2 1/2 monthes because California is broke, and the workers at the office that does that are on forced furloughs 3 fridays a month ( off work and no pay ) plusother people that have been let go.

They will say they need the money for this, tax marijuana, but it will still take 2 1/2 months.

Its the same old story here. Taxation without representation. I want to know who is running on the accountability party?
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Old 11-06-2010, 10:25 PM   #447 (permalink)
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To be clear, "legalizing" it under current proposals doesn't mean everyone could just grow their own.

You could grow a small amount yourself, but any amount meant to be sold requires a license that the government subjectively decides who gets one. Just like alocohol. Who can get a license to produce alcohol in the US? It is very difficult.

Also, it entails very strict punishments for transporting it (If you grow your own, how are you going to take it anywhere?), or having it near people less than 18 or 21 years old, sometimes in a way you can't control.

If you live in an apartment and have a small amount for personal use, which is legal, how can you control if there is a minor in another apartment in your building that has nothing to do with you? And if this penalty is 5 years in prison, what the ****?
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Old 11-06-2010, 10:27 PM   #448 (permalink)
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I will be for legalization when they write the bills a little differently.

There is no doubt it is everywhere around here.

People smoke it in front of the bar facing the srteet around here. Its not like there's some big secret. They have pictures and logos of it on their hats, shirts, and jackets. Weed is part of the culture in a lot of California.
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Old 11-10-2010, 12:28 AM   #449 (permalink)
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Your arguments don't favor keeping grass illegal unless you're a dealer.
The people that have been growing marijuana this whole time that it has become popular enough to legalize support our economy up here. All the legit businesses are supported by them.

In fact that is one of the arguments to legalize it, which in principle is a good idea to me.

The way the current bill was written, these people would not be able to participate in commercial production for the most part. The governement would co-opt the production.

A casual smoker would enjoy getting marijuana with easy access and no legal hassles, but they would pay more than necessary and get maybe not as good quality. Do you like bris, pepper jack, or "government cheese?"

Casual smokers will still enjoy this easy access and lack of legal hassles when the bills are written to include the people that pioneered the introduction into the culture
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Old 11-10-2010, 08:47 PM   #450 (permalink)
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I smoke pot. Legally.

This is my opinion. I don't think it is getting legalized because of the basic prison industrial complex. The police union is very powerful, and they will never have it. And a politician can't go against them, because then they will be against safety, and so on.

Obama can, because he has the black vote, and the Repub's already hate him, so all he can do is convert the pot smoking ones.

None of the Ca gubernatorial candidates were for legalization. And one of em even dated a rock star last time he was gov.

As far as exposing kids, yeah right. Alcohol should have the same rules weed has now.
The store usually has no sign, and is let in by buzzer.

You have to be 18 and licensed to even get in.

Liquor should be the same. Why should a kid go into the store, and see the St. Pauli girl's boobs, all the other beer girls and all the other ads.

Companies pay millions of dollars for it. Do you really think it stops working on people not old enough to buy it?

If anyone not from here is interested, I'm a newb, so I can't post links, but check out weedmaps dot com. There are practically as many weed stores as 7-11's. If you didn't know the address to one of em, you would never be able to find it.
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