Should US Legalize Marijuana?

cardboard adolescent · 10-19-2010, 10:14 PM

I think "it's awesome" is definitely the best reason for why it should be legalized.

RVCA · 10-20-2010, 01:48 AM

Legalize pot or ban alcohol, either is fine with me.

mr dave · 10-20-2010, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 90'sMusicKid

Of course it should be legalized....it's fun..and awesome...

it's crap like this that makes me ashamed to own up to puffing. same as 4/20 'celebrations'. we get it, you like it, it makes you 'rebellious' and 'anti-authority', totally sticking it to 'the man'... and not at all a self-medicated sheep like all the other 'rebellious' stoners out there.

personally i think it should be decriminalized on the same level as alcohol, it's still a controlled substance, and you'd still need to adhere to controls over its use and sale. not because it's fun or awesome, but because i really honestly think the government stands to profit far more from taxing the sale and cultivation of cannabis than it's continued and failed efforts to control it.

on top of the economical benefits of decriminalization it would also help reverse the stigma on hemp, which could be a VERY viable crop. i mean really, the fibers make more durable clothes than cotton, and the oil can be used in diesel engines. you could GROW FUEL. but the stigma persists, it's related to the devil weed and therefore is the devil weed.

there's also the tangible medical benefit. i have a friend with Crohn's disease, eating is not always a pleasant experience, especially not when he's getting a flare up, having a puff helps establish a bit of an appetite and negates some of the pain and discomfort.

the biggest hurdle right now is the misguided belief that it's a 'gateway' drug. BULLSH!T!!!, alcohol and tobacco are the gateway drugs of choice in the industrialized western world. that, and the fact that most police departments stand to lose a pile of funding in the, again, failed, 'war' on drugs. by keeping it illegal they're keeping the bigger profits from weed in the pockets of gangsters and hard drug dealers and dudes like Bill and Ted are screwed for life for getting pinched with a J and having their permanent records tainted.... all because of something i'm sure the majority of lawmakers on this continent refuse to acknowledge enjoying at some point in their youth.

cardboard adolescent · 10-20-2010, 02:31 AM

Pot is a gateway drug. Alcohol is a dead end drug.

anticipation · 10-20-2010, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Hey, speaking of The Lancet, have any of you people seen the new drug classification proposal based on level of danger that was published in it a few years back? Here's a chart from it:

Notice where alcohol is relative to cannabis, LSD, ecstasy, etc.

Here's the BBC article about it.

I've been seeing this chart for awhile, and while I agree with most of the data on it I prefer this chart:

The first one makes it seem like cannabis is more harmful than GHB, anabolic steroids, and solvents, which isn't the case at all. This one differentiates between the dependence and body load factors, and although it still places marijuana a bit high on the dependence scale for my liking it provides a more realistic depiction of drug harm reduction data.

Honestly, all those who glamorize marijuana use as "natural", "safe", and "spiritual" are morons. Any serious psychonaut knowingly and willingly accepts the fact that all drugs are toxic, and their effects are basically mild-to-severe forms of poisoning. There's nothing spiritual about inhaling the carcinogen-laden smoke of a dried plant, it's just another way mankind has found to alter consciousness in an effort to avoid the monotony of daily life.

90'sMusicKid · 10-20-2010, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by xEMGx

It's Awesome? This would not hold up in an argument for it to be legalized. And why do you have to go the next three years without it, legal or illegal you can get it no matter what.

Well if we're gonna debate about it. It should be legalized because it for the most part is harmless. The US has wasted so much time, money and correctional facility space since the 'war on drugs' began. Not to mention 1000's of LEO's have been killed just to stop people from buying/selling/carrying it.

And because I'm enlisted.

~~Dirty~~ · 10-20-2010, 11:41 AM

The things is... I'm going to smoke regardless. So are other smokers. it isn't tough to find weed. But instead of money going to a dealer it could go to the government.

So on one hand i am a little surprised there havent been faster steps towards legalizing.

cardboard adolescent · 10-20-2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation

Honestly, all those who glamorize marijuana use as "natural", "safe", and "spiritual" are morons. Any serious psychonaut knowingly and willingly accepts the fact that all drugs are toxic, and their effects are basically mild-to-severe forms of poisoning. There's nothing spiritual about inhaling the carcinogen-laden smoke of a dried plant, it's just another way mankind has found to alter consciousness in an effort to avoid the monotony of daily life.

It's as spiritual as you make it. Anything can be spiritual if you approach it as such.

RVCA · 10-20-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty

The things is... I'm going to smoke regardless. So are other smokers. it isn't tough to find weed. But instead of money going to a dealer it could go to the government.

So on one hand i am a little surprised there havent been faster steps towards legalizing.

You kidding? You think that the number of potheads in our soceity won't increase once (if) it becomes legalized? That's what your argument boils down to.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 10-20-2010, 05:16 PM

Yawn. Everyone sees the fallacies of it being illegal. Most everyone agrees it should be legalized. New topic please.

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cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	I think "it's awesome" is definitely the best reason for why it should be legalized.

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cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	Pot is a gateway drug. Alcohol is a dead end drug.

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~~Dirty~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: USA Posts: 981	The things is... I'm going to smoke regardless. So are other smokers. it isn't tough to find weed. But instead of money going to a dealer it could go to the government. So on one hand i am a little surprised there havent been faster steps towards legalizing.

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~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,538	Yawn. Everyone sees the fallacies of it being illegal. Most everyone agrees it should be legalized. New topic please.