mr dave

so why was it legal when alcohol was prohibited?

how is it harder to tax than tobacco?

i've already touched on the growth thing a few times, how about someone actually reads my full sentences before commenting on it again. growing the plant is one thing, growing a plant that produces a bud worth smoking is another matter entirely.

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Dr_Rez

That depends on your standards though. Mine have always been quite low

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mr dave

hahaha even if you like the crappiest of bud you're still smoking the bud from a female plant, male plants don't produce enough THC to provide a buzz (if any at all). the bud from a male plant will give you a wicked headache though.

that alone is a necessary consideration for home growth. it's not something i've ever tried myself but if i remember correctly, it's something that can only be determined after a few weeks or months of growth.

so going back to the economy i don't think the home grown market would really have a massive effect on the overall product if it ever went commercial.

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Guybrush

I know people who have grown plants for their own use .. I think many do.

The article posted by Thrice in the first post also predicts a rise in "entrepreneurs". I believe in it.

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Fruitonica

I'm going with Mr Dave here and saying that most people would gladly buy their weed for the convenience of not having to grow it. Also, I doubt many home growers would be able to compete with a massive farm operation with government approval, weed would probably drop in price and make it pretty unprofitable for small time operations. This is just my own rampant speculation.

But I think, regardless of any economic value, regardless on whether it's going to be taxed it should be legalised (or decriminalised) for the simple reason that it's relatively harmless and people shouldn't be punished for using or growing it.

I've hallucinated after smoking small amounts of weed. Not purple elphants or anything, but I've seen the bowl smiling at me and my vision has become grey and pastel like, in addition to losing most of my hearing except for a bird call that sounded absurdly loud and close to my ear.

I think it really comes down to how susceptible a person is to that sort of thing. Some might never hallucinate, but it's definitely possible.

Kamikazi Kat

I've recently been reading alot of drugs in general, weed in particular. I was suprised that it, according to wikipedia, much less harmful then what my school has been preaching to us. Although I always found it a bit hard to take them all of that seriously after the one conference where they said one of the signs of somebody getting into ecstasy is "a sudden change in taste in music, especially when moving toward stuff like techno and "rave-like" music" because the repetative bass stomp increases your high."

I talked about it with one of my friends who seems to have this more extreme anti-drug attitude, he keeps telling me that smoking weed regularly will most likely cause you to develop some random mental problem later in life, I can't remember exactly what he called it. If anybody knows of any good sites or has any knowledge of the drug let me know, I'm curious to get a good idea on the health risks of pot since I'm getting tired of hearing the completely biased bull**** from either teachers saying it will rip apart your brain or something retarded like that, or some annoying pothead that glorifies pot in this annoying way telling me that if I don't smoke it then my **** will shrink and I will become a right wing conservative christian and will never gain an apprieciation for "totally amazing" mainstream "indie" bands.

I'm alot more open minded about making pot legal now. The only thing that worries me is having to deal with so many more people smoking it. I can't stand smoke from cirgerretes and pot, it just really bothers me for some reason.

Freebase Dali

Jeez man, looks like I missed the party.

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Thrice

Not in the least bit, I have lived up and down the East my entire life, and we have the same views. Just the comparison of natural to chemical is enough of a fact for me.

That is my entire argument at the moment. If the entire purpose of legalization (or decriminalization for dave, I see where youre coming from there) is for taxing the product for profit. I see no reliable evidence that prices would decrease and that being said, I feel that the Black market would still be very strong in competing because they control the price. Also, they plan on regulating the amount of MJ produced and distributed by change in tax.

Have you ever taken any hallucinogenic drugs? I have never hallied on weed, and never will. I think it is not possible. There were times when I was younger and thought I may have, but after experiencing hallies I understand I did not. When I actually did, I truly believed whatever farfetched event was occurring.

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Guybrush

They would be able to compete very well because the government farms stuff would be taxed while the homegrowers stuff would not - it would be the black market. What would you pay, a lotta dollahs for a government bag or a black market bag for 1/4th of the price?

As I wrote earlier, if you simply allow weed and don't bother taxing it, then you get all the negative effects of weed without any benefits and for a society, that makes no sense at all.

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