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Guybrush 04-22-2009 10:20 AM

Even Yukon thinks it's a load of bull .. If that's not an indicator you're out on thin ice, I don't know what is.

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius (Post 644117)
I have looked into this quite a bit.. Its rather interesting. We know at least with quantum physics that we have a slight bit of control over the smallest particals. For you to understand that you would have to look at the double slit exp.

I don't think it's hard to understand how we can have control over particles. I mean, I can boil water can't I? Throw a ball? ;)

Yukon Cornelius 04-22-2009 11:40 AM

Have you looked over that tore (double slit experiment ?) Honestly, what you said made no sense.

Guybrush 04-22-2009 11:44 AM

Yes, I do know the double slit experiment though I fail to see what it has to do with telekinesis. I was poking fun at you because you say that with quantum mechanics, we have slight control over tiny particles .. and well, of course we do. If we didn't, how would be even be able to interact with the world in the way we do for example by throwing balls or boiling eggs?

I know you probably meant control over matter with our minds, but you didn't write that so I pulled your leg a little.

If you want, feel free to explain to me how the double slit experiment gives telekinesis any credibility.

Yukon Cornelius 04-22-2009 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 644156)
Yes, I do know the double slit experiment though I fail to see what it has to do with telekinesis. I was poking fun at you because you say that with quantum mechanics, we have slight control over tiny particles .. and well, of course we do. If we didn't, how would be even be able to interact with the world in the way we do for example by throwing balls or boiling eggs?

I know you probably meant control over matter with our minds, but you didn't write that so I pulled your leg a little.

If you want, feel free to explain to me how the double slit experiment gives telekinesis any credibility.


Ok, now that I see what your saying...

Nah, what I mean is "mind over matter" I guess, And being that telekinesis is just that. I made a connection.

With that said
I don't think we can control objects with our minds, I would almost say that the changes in the paths of these particals when shot, may be affected by our bodies actual energy, and possibly anything we use to observe it would more than likely have an energy source.

pahuuuta 04-22-2009 12:05 PM

so is there anyway that its possible or no

Yukon Cornelius 04-22-2009 12:07 PM

Magnets!!!

pahuuuta 04-22-2009 12:35 PM

haha superass powerful magnet

Guybrush 04-22-2009 12:44 PM

Don't forget placebo effects and the powers of suggestion and so on. One of the schmucks on that site recommends trying to move the flame on a burning candle. If I wanted to kid myself, that's what I'd do as well - get something which is gonna move around on it's own, then make myself believe that I'm doing it with my mind.

pahuuuta 04-24-2009 09:49 AM

they also mentioned dice

Freebase Dali 04-24-2009 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pahuuuta (Post 644189)
so is there anyway that its possible or no

I can't believe you're asking that.

For an object to move, it must be subjected to a force that overcomes the force of gravity that holds it in place. That force has to have a physical characteristic that can oppose the surface of the object being moved. Aka, your hand, strong wind, etc...

An object can also be moved if it interacts with certain forces of nature, aka magnetism, static electricity, etc.. These forces also have to overcome the force of gravity in order to move an object


Your mind, however, can ultimately only control one thing:
Your body. (not taking into account mental tactics asserted on others)

If you read what I just typed and you have any amount of common sense, you will be able to answer your question with a resounding NO.
If not, then keep reading it until you can.


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