lucifer_sam

that's the cutest fetus i've ever seen.

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first.am

WWWP

I'll bet I was a pretty cute fetus.

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someonecompletelyrandom

I am Pre-Choice. It's where you kill everyone in the room before they can make up their mind.

boo boo

I'm gonna make a bumper sticker out of that.

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mr dave

i'm definitely with thrice on this one although i lean just a little more towards choice.

it seems too many people are looking at the practice like a nifty little "undo" feature just like in windows when they decide they effed up at the most basic purpose of their freaking existence. oh shoot i done got drunk and knocked up!!! i'll just ctrl-z the fetus and bam! i can go back to being an irresponsible cumdumpster woohoo!

that's not to say there aren't valid reasons to abort but there are more than a few very valid and very worthwhile couples out there waiting to adopt so why deny good parents? gonna make your social life suck for the next 9 months? awww..... maybe bring a little shame to the homestead? mummy and daddy going to feel shame oh no! the neighbors are going to talk in hushed tones!!!

there are plenty of other ways to have an orgasm besides unprotected intercourse. if you don't think you're ready to raise a baby then you shouldn't be using that method. there's a reason it's the only way life lives on, if you can't wrap your head around it then you're not mature enough to be doing it. just because you can doesn't mean you need to.

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Guybrush

The "you brought it on yourself" piece of the argument that I see some pro-lifers use seems almost a bit vindictive. So people that are immature should not have sex. You know what? I agree with that. However, that doesn't stop immature people from having sex. What do you do when they do get pregnant? Are you gonna say "well, tough **** kiddo" and that's your argument for denying them abortion?

To me, that seems more rooted in bitterness than any kind of logic. In other words, I don't think that's something worthy of basing an important moral decision on.

And what does it matter to you if those immature kids do get an abortion? You think getting pregnant and having an abortion is not a bad experience for a young mother? You think she can't learn from that and is just gonna go out there and get pregged up again?

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boo boo

I'm against abortion morally

But it's hard to say that when the term "pro life" is used so carelssly by people who cling on to their belief that women are satanic monsters who love nothing more than to kill babies and ruin the foundation of the American family by getting a college education.

So there's a lot of sexism behind the pro life movement, there's no denying that. But that doesn't mean you're a sexist if you're against abortion. Radical feminists who try to push that on people are idiots. I just don't think killing babies is ok, that's all there is to it.

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Guybrush

Personally, I would like to know to know if anyone here are pro-life based on actual ethics/moral theory and then maybe discuss the topic from there. Abortion is a moral dilemma, yet very few people deal with it as such - or at least they don't word it well.

I'm sure most people have some kind of moral compass when they state their opinions on the matter, but what drives that compass? Why do some consider it immoral to have an abortion?

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boo boo

Gee. I woulda thunk saying "I don't like killing babies" was pretty straightforward.

I said I'm only against it morally though. Legally I think it should depend on the circumstances. So under circumstances like rape or risk of the mother dying, yeah, women have the right to choose. Well actually you're right that overall it should be the woman's choice.

So my advice to the "pro life" fundamentalist christians is this. If you want to put a halt on abortion there are more effective ways of doing it than trying to make it illegal. First off try not to be the raging retards that you are and accept that we don't really need to be fruitful and multiply anymore, we've done enough of that. So try to actually ecourage people to use condoms and birth countrol, or hell, the more masturbation and oral the better. And teach kids about sex because abstinence does jack sh*t, telling kids to abstain from something without explaining what they're abstaining from actually is NEVER works.

And simply educating women about the other alternatives to abortion, and reward them for choosing those alternatives instead. That more than anything should be the goal.

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Guybrush

It's not a bad post and like you say, I do agree.

This joke or stab seems a bit ignorant, though. A baby and a fetus is not the same. Are you certain that a weeks old fetus feels pain or sadness like a baby? Most believe they don't and that can make all the difference.

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