Pro-Life vs. Pro-Choice (quote, memories, Hang)

Fruitonica · 04-20-2009, 06:43 AM

I don't like it when people talk about 'when life begins', when quite clearly an embryo or foetus is alive in the scientific term. But life isn't sacred in a blanket sense, it's more important to look at the quality of the life.

So for me, killing a bundle of cells that can't think or feel at even a basic level doesn't offend and I'm fine with abortion early in the pregnancy.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 04-20-2009, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Thrice

If I were your mother, I'd have aborted you at age 3

How exactly would that abortion work? Push him down the stairs?

EDGE · 04-20-2009, 01:39 PM

Stuff into vagina. Vacuum out.

darkcornerinthecloset · 04-20-2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pobodys_Nerfect

that has got to be the most retarded logic I've heard for a long time. I don't remember being born, nor do I remember going from the hospital to my home, or just about anything up til I was 4 so by that logic I wasn't alive until I was 4 years old.

there is a difference between being aware [ or conscious] and remembering

darkcornerinthecloset · 04-20-2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by khfreek

There's a difference between brain functionality and humanity, as seen in animals.

i assume youre not a vegetarian? are we arguing about if you should kill animals now too? lets not. if theres a thread about that in here id like to find it. . .

khfreek · 04-21-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by darkcornerinthecloset

i assume youre not a vegetarian? are we arguing about if you should kill animals now too? lets not. if theres a thread about that in here id like to find it. . .

Me and ethan already had a long debate about THAT topic. I was saying that by Unfan's definition of life, human fetuses' lives are as valuable as animals', which I, along with most of the Republicans against abortion, think are essentially worthless.

khfreek · 04-21-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer

...why?

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Originally Posted by darkcornerinthecloset

are we arguing about if you should kill animals now too? lets not.

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khfreek · 04-21-2009, 09:30 PM

Because I don't think animals can love anything. Apparently anyone who has ever owned a pet ever disagrees with that, which is weird cause I've had many pets... I don't think any of them were about to leap in front of a bullet to save my life or anything. That's the end of me talking about that.

My point of course being that TheUnfan can't use his definition as a defense for pro-lifers when pro-lifers are usually the people that devalue animal life.

Thrice · 04-21-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

How exactly would that abortion work? Push him down the stairs?

The good ole coat hanger trick, might take a little while, but it will work!

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Originally Posted by khfreek

Because I don't think animals can love anything. Apparently anyone who has ever owned a pet ever disagrees with that, which is weird cause I've had many pets... I don't think any of them were about to leap in front of a bullet to save my life or anything. That's the end of me talking about that.

My point of course being that TheUnfan can't use his definition as a defense for pro-lifers when pro-lifers are usually the people that devalue animal life.

Ha ha, I think youre getting rover confused with underdog. Im a 'pro-lifer' and I value animal life.

~~The Unfan~~ · 04-21-2009, 10:59 PM

I'm confused. I'd never use my argument to back up a pro-life stance. I'm pro-choice, so it would be counterproductive.

Also, I'm 100% fine with animals dying for consumption.

04-21-2009, 09:30 PM	#48 (permalink)
khfreek What a guy Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,123	Because I don't think animals can love anything. Apparently anyone who has ever owned a pet ever disagrees with that, which is weird cause I've had many pets... I don't think any of them were about to leap in front of a bullet to save my life or anything. That's the end of me talking about that. My point of course being that TheUnfan can't use his definition as a defense for pro-lifers when pro-lifers are usually the people that devalue animal life. __________________ last.fm

04-20-2009, 06:43 AM	#41 (permalink)
Fruitonica Pale and Wan Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Aus Posts: 917	I don't like it when people talk about 'when life begins', when quite clearly an embryo or foetus is alive in the scientific term. But life isn't sacred in a blanket sense, it's more important to look at the quality of the life. So for me, killing a bundle of cells that can't think or feel at even a basic level doesn't offend and I'm fine with abortion early in the pregnancy.

04-20-2009, 01:39 PM	#43 (permalink)
EDGE accidental genius Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,161	Stuff into vagina. Vacuum out.

04-21-2009, 10:59 PM	#50 (permalink)
~~The Unfan~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Methville Posts: 2,116	I'm confused. I'd never use my argument to back up a pro-life stance. I'm pro-choice, so it would be counterproductive. Also, I'm 100% fine with animals dying for consumption.