SugarRush

So what's your stance?

Personally, I'm pro-choice. Because for one, I believe that that embryo itself, really has no rights as is only a potential and not an actual being. Therefore it should not have rights that take precedence over those of its mother until it is physically born. The mother should be have the inherent rights to make the decision to choose to do whatever she wishes to do with her body. I mean, if we take away the woman’s right to choose, will we begin limiting her other rights also?

Plus, it is my opinion that the unborn is an embryo or a fetus-just a mass of tissue, a product of conception- not an actual human being yet. Abortion is terminating a pregnancy, not killing a child. Since, it has not experienced anything yet, by terminating its development nothing much has been done actually harm it. Right now, it has no mind of its own, besides a brain which is just starting to develop, but since it has not been exposed to anything besides its mothers body,it could not possibly have any thoughts yet, since all thoughts originate from experiences one has had.

EDGE

Pro-choice, absolutely. And just for the record, I absolutely can not stand when pro-life activists pull the "you're committing a murder" bullshit on me. A human being is an individual who is capable of living on it's own. A fetus is unable to function properly without it's mother's organs until child birth. Therefore I'm not killing anyone (so suck it).

I just fucking hate babies. I have thoughts about going to the Labor & Delivery floor in hospitals, and switching all of the babies’ name tags and charts around. And I really don’t see this as an issue. Stop littering the world with your progeny, especially if you know you should not/can not raise a child.

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Thrice

Stop having sex if you cannot raise a child.

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EDGE

Consent to sex IS NOT consent to motherhood.

TheBig3

No, its certainly not. But I doubt few having sex don't know that father/motherhood is a potential outcome.

I'm pro-choice. To clarify my position though, i'd like to point out its about choice not

• its not yet a human so it isn't murder
• its my body blah blah blah
• we shouldn't have it if we can't afford it

For me, I don't need to include that list in the policy of it all. Those things are for individuals to decide I will say though that I believe people that have the children when they can't are generally a larger strain on your community than any person should be.

And for christ sakes, take your accidental mircles our out of all Supermarkets, grocery stores, and restaurants.

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Guybrush

And all kinds of public transport, please.

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SATCHMO

That's fucked up.

Thrice

I thought we had a thread about this, but aside from rape and such like events, Im very pro-life. This is a fairly useless and overplayed debate and IMO it all just comes down to responsibility. As being a 22 year old father I can speak from experience that I could have done things differently and it was suggested to me, but looking back I made a great choice. (Not that it was a decision what so ever) Basically if youre banging, you better be ****ing ready to support a child. This is why we have endless means to not get preg.

On the rape matter, I guess one could abort a child within the first trimester only, and its all very conditional. Not statutory (sp?) rape, but held down and boned kinda style rape.

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EDGE

Isn't the outcome of the rape as innocent as the outcome of an unwanted pregnancy?

anticipation

pro-choice, ladies should have the right to not ruin their fuckholes.