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Old 04-07-2009, 02:48 PM   #71 (permalink)
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I can't believe I laughed that hard at my own ****up. Aces gentleman, aces.

And btw, Willfred Brimley pronounces it Di-a-be-tis.

Also, you left home my friend. It sucks royal ass here with Devy P on Beacon Hill. Looks like we're in for another 12 years of the Republican lockdown.

Edit: We have socialized medicine and *** marriage. What other state can say that?
What are you talking about? Mass does not have socialized medicine.

I may have left home but doesn't mean I stopped spending time there or stopped talking to all my family and friends who still live there.
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Old 04-07-2009, 03:29 PM   #72 (permalink)
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sorry, I mean universal healthcare, I'm outta my tree today.
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Old 04-07-2009, 03:30 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Fascism isn't much worse than gang monarchy (aka what you propose).

If you want to declare socialism as the best than fine. Don't even try to tell me that socialists respect individual rights.

Political discussions lack when I don't get to hear the philosophy behind the view so if you are going to respond with criticism then please post why you think private property rights should not be respected.
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Old 04-07-2009, 03:51 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Democracy (in the true sense) is just a synonym for gang rule. The general atmosphere of the words is different, but both words mean the same thing. The majority rules.

Since most socialists are pro-democracy in just about every way, I was attacking those socialists. He called a right-wing authoritarian a "fascist" when he (being in the green quadrant) is a "left-wing libertarian". The term "libertarian" is probably the worst political term there is because it emphasizes "liberty" above all else. The idea for people to do what they want to do is the goal of that movement. However, his leftist approach to it contradicts this because he believes that one should not be able to reap the benefits of his work. Libertarianism, when it isn't guided by a philosophy, has no meaning because either right or left wing libertarianism does not guarantee liberty in all areas. So I was beckoning him to explain his philosophical approach to libertarianism if he wanted to form a rebuttal because if he doesn't then one could just pick apart all the errors in general libertarianism.
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Old 04-07-2009, 04:10 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Well, the idea (at least for me) is that a strong society will help the majority of the people. Individually it will not help absolutely everyone, but hopefully most people.
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Old 04-07-2009, 05:35 PM   #76 (permalink)
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The term "libertarian" is probably the worst political term there is because it emphasizes "liberty" above all else. The idea for people to do what they want to do is the goal of that movement. However, his leftist approach to it contradicts this because he believes that one should not be able to reap the benefits of his work.
This is probably the most intellectually dishonest thing anyone has ever posted. Emphasizing personal rights while creating programs to protect those rights is not a contradiction. The reason taxes exist is to create mutually beneficial programs and secure our liberties. Trying to get rid of government involvement based on the idea that you don't want to lose 2% of what you make in government spending to allow you to have any liberties at all is outright stupid. We are the government, the government is us. The government is by people, for the people and the security thereof.
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Old 04-07-2009, 05:36 PM   #77 (permalink)
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sorry, I mean universal healthcare, I'm outta my tree today.
Mass doesn't have that either.
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We are the government, the government is us. The government is by people, for the people and the security thereof.
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I said what I meant and I meant what I said. The Unfan supports government 100%.
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