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Old 04-16-2015, 01:11 PM   #501 (permalink)
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I don't see the problem.

I'd gladly pay tax money even if I worked for it. It benefits all of us anyway. There's an answer.
If you want to pay money, then donate. Why is it right to take somebody's money against their will? And how do know it's benefiting you? How do you know the money isn't being squandered in a bureaucratic cluster ****? How do you know that even if the money is going towards its intended purpose, that it's accomplishing anything?
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Old 04-16-2015, 01:12 PM   #502 (permalink)
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It benefits all of us anyway.
That is actually the answer to one of the questions. Increasing the quality of life for you and everyone else is what you think the point of humanity is.

Like the batlord just said though, that answer only qualifies in theory as an answer. The real world applications are far more involved.
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Old 04-16-2015, 01:47 PM   #503 (permalink)
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If you want to pay money, then donate. Why is it right to take somebody's money against their will? And how do know it's benefiting you? How do you know the money isn't being squandered in a bureaucratic cluster ****? How do you know that even if the money is going towards its intended purpose, that it's accomplishing anything?
Well, we have libraries, roads, science funding, public education, military defense, and welfare programs to show it's benefiting us and we already know some gets squandered, especially with "use it or lose it" policies that funding departments use.

Whether it's "accomplishing anything" is a personal matter. I'm appreciative of roads and libraries and my incomes relies on scientific funding.
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Old 04-16-2015, 02:07 PM   #504 (permalink)
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If you want to pay money, then donate. Why is it right to take somebody's money against their will? And how do know it's benefiting you? How do you know the money isn't being squandered in a bureaucratic cluster ****? How do you know that even if the money is going towards its intended purpose, that it's accomplishing anything?
But if mandatory taxation was abolished, who would fund the public sector? Would people donate voluntarily?
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Old 04-16-2015, 02:17 PM   #505 (permalink)
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Well, we have libraries, roads, science funding, public education, military defense, and welfare programs to show it's benefiting us and we already know some gets squandered, especially with "use it or lose it" policies that funding departments use.

Whether it's "accomplishing anything" is a personal matter. I'm appreciative of roads and libraries and my incomes relies on scientific funding.
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But if mandatory taxation was abolished, who would fund the public sector? Would people donate voluntarily?
Well my first two examples were meant to be taken together. I was referring specifically to welfare.
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Old 04-16-2015, 02:25 PM   #506 (permalink)
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That is actually the answer to one of the questions. Increasing the quality of life for you and everyone else is what you think the point of humanity is.
I don't think there's a "point of humanity". That would mean we were created for a reason, perhaps by intelligent design, which I don't believe in. I just think we should make life suck as little as possible for the masses.
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Well my first two examples were meant to be taken together. I was referring specifically to welfare.
so what do you do with a family of people who can't afford to eat?
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so what do you do with a family of people who can't afford to eat?
Eat them.
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Old 04-16-2015, 02:43 PM   #510 (permalink)
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so what do you do with a family of people who can't afford to eat?
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