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Old 04-14-2015, 10:58 AM   #441 (permalink)
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What evidence is there that they do? They've proven that they know how to exploit the economy, but that doesn't mean they understand how it works.
i guess my question is... is it really the stock broker's main goal to 'understand how the economy works'?
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But efficiency doesn't equate to intelligence. I don't see how it would be possible to deliberately create something more intelligent than the most intelligent thing. Even if we fully understood the brain we wouldn't be able to make something more intelligent than it because we wouldn't know anything else. You're basically saying we can design something capable of answering questions that we don't know exist.
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Old 04-14-2015, 11:28 AM   #443 (permalink)
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But efficiency doesn't equate to intelligence.
in a way, it sort of does. intelligence is basically the ability to solve problems in the most efficient manner.

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I don't see how it would be possible to deliberately create something more intelligent than the most intelligent thing. Even if we fully understood the brain we wouldn't be able to make something more intelligent than it because we wouldn't know anything else. You're basically saying we can design something capable of answering questions that we don't know exist.
yet you have no problem with the idea that a blind process of trial and error can create a process much more intelligent than itself?
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Old 04-14-2015, 11:31 AM   #444 (permalink)
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yet you have no problem with the idea that a blind process of trial and error can create a process much more intelligent than itself?
Thought it was more survival of the fittest rather than trial and error.
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whats the difference?
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whats the difference?
I guess they both fall under Law of Effect.
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The test is supposed to predict your political affiliation (liberal/conservative) by asking a bunch of non-political questions. My results were just as expected:

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i'm not sure why some of these are considered more "liberal" or more "conservative".
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Old 04-14-2015, 11:52 AM   #448 (permalink)
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i'm not sure why some of these are considered more "liberal" or more "conservative".
Agreed, although they do provide for a good laugh.
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Old 04-14-2015, 12:02 PM   #449 (permalink)
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in a way, it sort of does. intelligence is basically the ability to solve problems in the most efficient manner.

yet you have no problem with the idea that a blind process of trial and error can create a process much more intelligent than itself?
Correct. Advancements happen in one of three ways:

1) Trial and Error (Chemistry)
2) Accidentally (X-ray technology)
3) Technology catches up to human intelligence (Nanotechnology)

I'm just not understanding how you think we can deliberately create something more intelligent than ourselves. That's like inventing a magic 8-ball that actually works. Can you give even one real world example of what you're claiming?

We use technology to create things to help us better understand and influence our surroundings in order to create new things to help us better understand and influence our surroundings... and on and on and on.
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i guess my question is... is it really the stock broker's main goal to 'understand how the economy works'?
Considering their main goal is to make money through their understanding of the economy, then I should hope it would be.
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