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~~James~~ · 03-10-2015, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

ftfy

Go back to school.

Haha. I study English Lit at university too. I never care too much about grammar in my personal life, I don't think it's the most important thing.

RoxyRollah · 03-10-2015, 09:03 AM

my hero!^

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 03-10-2015, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by James

I think it's one issue that can constantly be improved, and in most cases across the world improved drastically.
Kids shouldn't read great works of literature so they can quote dry chunks of analysis, they should read them because they teach them about life. The minute students aren't engaging with the material, something's went wrong.

it's funny cause when i was in high school and they'd make us read books/stories i always dreaded it. i would sparknote that **** every single time. i tried reading the books at first but they were so deathly boring that i couldn't handle it. the only book that school ever forced me to read that i enjoyed was animal farm.

lord of the flies... beowulf... anything shakespeare related... anything holocaust related... mango street.... shoot me in the ****ing face before forcing me to read this crap lol

then just as i graduated i ended up reading the grapes of wrath on my own in my spare time, cause i wanted to try to enjoy reading. and that book was amazing. and i wondered why they never bothered to force me to read it. and from there i learned about a bunch of classic books/authors that i enjoyed that would have been perfectly appropriate for school that were never even mentioned in my english classes.

~~James~~ · 03-10-2015, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

it's funny cause when i was in high school and they'd make us read books/stories i always dreaded it. i would sparknote that **** every single time. i tried reading the books at first but they were so deathly boring that i couldn't handle it. the only book that school ever forced me to read that i enjoyed was animal farm.

lord of the flies... beowulf... anything shakespeare related... anything holocaust related... mango street.... shoot me in the ****ing face before forcing me to read this crap lol

then just as i graduated i ended up reading the grapes of wrath on my own in my spare time, cause i wanted to try to enjoy reading. and that book was amazing. and i wondered why they never bothered to force me to read it. and from there i learned about a bunch of classic books/authors that i enjoyed that would have been perfectly appropriate for school that were never even mentioned in my english classes.

Yeah so many of the choices are poor. I personally see little value in Beowulf, especially not for high school students.
I think most classics would be interesting to students if they were just taught well, which they usually aren't.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 03-10-2015, 01:28 PM

yea.. the thing about beowulf is the story is actually pretty cool i think, it's just trying to decipher ancient english really isn't a good way to introduce kids to reading for pleasure. i mean you might as well put the king james bible in front of us.

i have the same basic problem with shakespeare. plus whenever they forced us to read romeo and juliet it just seemed stupid from my teenage perspective. mostly the fact that they were "in love" within 2 minutes of meeting each other. seems ridiculous to me.

Wpnfire · 03-12-2015, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

You don't prioritize at all? Like let's have an educated future generation before we worry about who's holding our oil?

Oh sorry. First of all, this is all in theory right? In theory we shouldn't need to prioritize period. We should be able to address everything simultaneously.

Oh and yeah teachers need to be payed more. I'm kinda shocked this hasn't been said already.

~~James~~ · 03-12-2015, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

yea.. the thing about beowulf is the story is actually pretty cool i think, it's just trying to decipher ancient english really isn't a good way to introduce kids to reading for pleasure. i mean you might as well put the king james bible in front of us.

i have the same basic problem with shakespeare. plus whenever they forced us to read romeo and juliet it just seemed stupid from my teenage perspective. mostly the fact that they were "in love" within 2 minutes of meeting each other. seems ridiculous to me.

Kids aren't going to be interested in Romeo & Juliet, if we hit them with King Lear or Othello they'd be hooked.

The Batlord · 03-12-2015, 12:06 PM

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Kids aren't going to be interested in Romeo & Juliet, if we hit them with King Lear or Othello they'd be hooked.

Are you kidding? That old Romeo and Juliet movie they showed in class had a nipple.

~~James~~ · 03-12-2015, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Are you kidding? That old Romeo and Juliet movie they showed in class had a nipple.

Very true. Maybe they should just teach porn.

The Batlord · 03-12-2015, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by James

Very true. Maybe they should just teach porn.

Finally, a teaching position I'd qualify for.

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~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	yea.. the thing about beowulf is the story is actually pretty cool i think, it's just trying to decipher ancient english really isn't a good way to introduce kids to reading for pleasure. i mean you might as well put the king james bible in front of us. i have the same basic problem with shakespeare. plus whenever they forced us to read romeo and juliet it just seemed stupid from my teenage perspective. mostly the fact that they were "in love" within 2 minutes of meeting each other. seems ridiculous to me.