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**Frownland** · 03-10-2015, 01:06 AM

Critical thinking should be taught earlier than senior year in high school, for starters. If they teach it in high school, that is. Personally I didn't do any of what I'd call critical thinking until college and I was enrolled in the AP system.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 03-10-2015, 01:59 AM

the school i went to a teacher got shot in the face and died

also we learned how to pass the FCAT

**Frownland** · 03-10-2015, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

the school i went to a teacher got shot in the face and died

also we learned how to pass the FCAT

Was it at the school?

It makes me laugh when people talk about schools only teaching the test to students after No Child Left Behind while these same people also support AP classes. From day one those classes are directly teaching you the test, how it asks questions, how it tries to trick you, how to find answers to something you don't know in other questions, everything about the test they taught you that ****. We would take practice AP tests at least once a week.

Standardized tests? They just taught the class, no practice tests, and everyone did fine.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 03-10-2015, 02:15 AM

A decade after Lake Worth Middle School shooting: Nathaniel Brazi | www.palmbeachpost.com

that was the one

as for teaching the test... we actually had to write essays in PE class to practice for the test. the school took it so seriously and had such a hard time getting people to pass that they literally forced all classes to focus on the test for a week or so.

~~James~~ · 03-10-2015, 06:05 AM

I think focusing on making students pass tests, when they should be focusing on making them better humans - that's the big problem with education.

Isbjørn · 03-10-2015, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by James

I think focusing on making students pass tests, when they should be focusing on making them better humans - that's the big problem with education.

Both should be a focus, but yes, the latter is coming too much in the background. The school should focus less on tests and exams. Instead of giving the students a boatload of tests, hoping that they pass, teachers' primary task should be to make sure that the students actually understand what they're learning. After all the schools' real aim is, or should be, preparing the students for later life. To achieve this, there must be more teachers per student than it is now, and the students should be divided into smaller classes.

Of course, I've never gone to school any other place than here in Norway, but from what I gather, these things aren't all that different elsewhere.

~~James~~ · 03-10-2015, 08:40 AM

I think it's one issue that can constantly be improved, and in most cases across the world improved drastically.
Kids shouldn't read great works of literature so they can quote dry chunks of analysis, they should read them because they teach them about life. The minute students aren't engaging with the material, something's went wrong.

Isbjørn · 03-10-2015, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by James

I think it's one issue that can constantly be improved, and in most cases across the world improved drastically.
Kids shouldn't read great works of literature so they can quote dry chunks of analysis, they should read them because they teach them about life. The minute students aren't engaging with the material, something's went wrong.

Very much this.

The Batlord · 03-10-2015, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by James

I think it's one issue that can constantly be improved, and in most cases across the world improved drastically.
Kids shouldn't read great works of literature so they can quote dry chunks of analysis, they should read them because they teach them about life. The minute students aren't engaging with the material, something's gone wrong.

ftfy

Go back to school.

Isbjørn · 03-10-2015, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

ftfy

Go back to school.

I'm pretty sure that just corroborates his criticism of the current educational system.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Critical thinking should be taught earlier than senior year in high school, for starters. If they teach it in high school, that is. Personally I didn't do any of what I'd call critical thinking until college and I was enrolled in the AP system. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	the school i went to a teacher got shot in the face and died also we learned how to pass the FCAT

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~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	A decade after Lake Worth Middle School shooting: Nathaniel Brazi \| www.palmbeachpost.com that was the one as for teaching the test... we actually had to write essays in PE class to practice for the test. the school took it so seriously and had such a hard time getting people to pass that they literally forced all classes to focus on the test for a week or so.

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~~James~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,483	I think focusing on making students pass tests, when they should be focusing on making them better humans - that's the big problem with education.

03-10-2015, 08:40 AM	#287 (permalink)
~~James~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,483	I think it's one issue that can constantly be improved, and in most cases across the world improved drastically. Kids shouldn't read great works of literature so they can quote dry chunks of analysis, they should read them because they teach them about life. The minute students aren't engaging with the material, something's went wrong.