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dac 04-06-2009 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevorkian Logic (Post 631462)
http://www.politicalcompass.org/face...4.50&soc=-3.90

that seems pretty accurate, I think.

First person to cross the Y-Axis...

You best be gettin' outta here, we don't like your kind around these parts.

;)

spark10036 04-06-2009 06:33 PM

http://www.politicalcompass.org/face...7.38&soc=-4.82

this is uncomfortable...I'm actually a member of the "Communist Youth of Cyprus", and if this test is correct, I'm more of a socialist...wow, didn't know this about myself...

TheBig3 04-06-2009 06:48 PM

can someone explain youth parties to me?

how the hell would they know?

Inuzuka Skysword 04-06-2009 06:48 PM

I am:

Left/Right: 7.12
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.05

I can't be the only Objectivist on here...

gunnels 04-06-2009 06:51 PM

http://i40.tinypic.com/rljns4.png
/status quo

spark10036 04-06-2009 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 631478)
can someone explain youth parties to me?

how the hell would they know?

I'm a member and still disagree with them to tell you the truth, and I didn't become a member until I was 20 anw...to tell you the truth they are a joke...it's just parents choosing for their children...I only became a member because there were elections at my university...but it was a life membership so...I'm a member...I do consider myself left-wing though...

Janszoon 04-06-2009 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by spark10036 (Post 631486)
I'm a member and still disagree with them to tell you the truth, and I didn't become a member until I was 20 anw...to tell you the truth they are a joke...it's just parents choosing for their children...I only became a member because there were elections at my university...but it was a life membership so...I'm a member...I do consider myself left-wing though...

It's a lifetime membership? So when you're 90, you'll be a member of a youth party?

spark10036 04-06-2009 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 631488)
It's a lifetime membership? So when you're 90, you'll be a member of a youth party?

I think until I'm 36, but I don't have to pay again, that's what they mean by life membership I guess...

Double X 04-06-2009 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spark10036 (Post 631469)
this is uncomfortable...I'm actually a member of the "Communist Youth of Cyprus", and if this test is correct, I'm more of a socialist...wow, didn't know this about myself...

Awesome, my dad's side of the family have been members of the American socialist party for a very long time. I am going to join when I am 18 (no youth group here).

And I think I was the only person to cross the x axis :o:

Antonio 04-06-2009 07:24 PM

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9823/pcgraphpngv.png

not much of a surprise

spark10036 04-06-2009 07:35 PM

still waiting for the first one to go in the blue box...the fascist:ar_15s:

anticipation 04-06-2009 08:48 PM

http://i40.tinypic.com/2pynvv7.png

weird, i thought i'd be lower left.

sleepy jack 04-06-2009 08:52 PM

Eh, I've found it to be generally fairly reliable. Wayfarer and I usually take this and compare our results every now and again. The one thing we both agree on is the historical figures are ridiculously inaccurate and should just be ignored.

Scarlett O'Hara 04-06-2009 09:15 PM

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http://www.politicalcompass.org/prin...3.62&soc=-2.41

Interesting....

TheBig3 04-06-2009 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double X (Post 631502)
Awesome, my dad's side of the family have been members of the American socialist party for a very long time. I am going to join when I am 18 (no youth group here).

And I think I was the only person to cross the x axis :o:

please god do not do that. this state needs less socialism.

lucifer_sam 04-06-2009 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 631580)
this state needs less socialism.

but more communism!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ich_Engels.jpg

Kamikazi Kat 04-06-2009 10:28 PM

Political Compass Printable Graph

I couldn't get the picture to show up, so I posted a link. I never like taking these "what are you" kinds of test because for so many of the questions, I honestly can't just give a "agree or disagree" answer. I can never completely make my up my mind with these questions. Most of the time, I find myself getting fairly different results every time I take any test like this.

Surell 04-06-2009 11:01 PM

http://www.politicalcompass.org/face...3.25&soc=-5.23

Pretty liberal person I presume, mostly on my social views.

TheBig3 04-07-2009 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 631584)

Clearly you've never been to Massachusetts. Here this should sell you...

Our old state motto used to be "You can make it in MA." In the 1970's they wanted to change it, so they had a citizens write-in contest. They got flooded with ******* suggestions like "Massachusetts, Less taxes than Sweeden!" until they finally hired an outside marketing group to create on.

That sums up this state economically.

Bulldog 04-07-2009 08:02 AM

http://www.politicalcompass.org/face...5.12&soc=-6.10

More or less where I thought I'd be then.

Double X 04-07-2009 08:06 AM

My great granfather was good friends with and an accountant for a communist leader in Czechoslovakia. I am guessing that when his daughter (my grandmother) moved here she adopted socialism because communism had an awful spin to it in America.

What's wrong with joining it? No chance anything will happen due to lack of popularity anyways...

coryallen2 04-07-2009 08:06 AM

http://www.politicalcompass.org/face...-0.38&soc=0.82


lol

TheBig3 04-07-2009 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double X (Post 631753)
My great granfather was good friends with and an accountant for a communist leader in Czechoslovakia. I am guessing that when his daughter (my grandmother) moved here she adopted socialism because communism had an awful spin to it in America.

What's wrong with joining it? No chance anything will happen due to lack of popularity anyways...

Not in MA though, its fairly accepted here. I'm next door to Cambridge so it a little more in my face. And if you harvard kids are reading this; No. I will not "rethink" columbus day.

We received one of the largest federal grants to do something revolutionary with public transit and we absolutly ****ed the pouch on that one. Now we have shifting highway exits, and giant holes in the ground that murder people.

Socialist prevelence here has sent countless people to jail on corruption charges. I'm no frontier republican, but big government is rife with corruption. In fact...

Corruption: Government::Diabetes: Obesity.

Janszoon 04-07-2009 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 631781)
Not in MA though, its fairly accepted here. I'm next door to Cambridge so it a little more in my face. And if you harvard kids are reading this; No. I will not "rethink" columbus day.

We received one of the largest federal grants to do something revolutionary with public transit and we absolutly ****ed the pouch on that one. Now we have shifting highway exits, and giant holes in the ground that murder people.

Socialist prevelence here has sent countless people to jail on corruption charges. I'm no frontier republican, but big government is rife with corruption. In fact...

Corruption: Government::Diabetes: Obesity.

LOL. You sound like my dad. Mass may be more left-wing than a lot of states but it's still far from socialist.

lucifer_sam 04-07-2009 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 631781)
Corruption: Government::Diabetes: Obesity.

smiley fail!

khfreek 04-07-2009 09:51 AM

Smilabetes!

Janszoon 04-07-2009 09:53 AM

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...g?t=1239119580

Yukon Cornelius 04-07-2009 10:34 AM

Hmm..
 
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I guess this is where i stand?

TheBig3 04-07-2009 01:07 PM

I can't believe I laughed that hard at my own ****up. Aces gentleman, aces.

And btw, Willfred Brimley pronounces it Di-a-be-tis.

Also, you left home my friend. It sucks royal ass here with Devy P on Beacon Hill. Looks like we're in for another 12 years of the Republican lockdown.

Edit: We have socialized medicine and *** marriage. What other state can say that?

Inuzuka Skysword 04-07-2009 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spark10036 (Post 631508)
still waiting for the first one to go in the blue box...the fascist:ar_15s:

Fascism isn't much worse than gang monarchy (aka what you propose).

If you want to declare socialism as the best than fine. Don't even try to tell me that socialists respect individual rights.

Political discussions lack when I don't get to hear the philosophy behind the view so if you are going to respond with criticism then please post why you think private property rights should not be respected.

Janszoon 04-07-2009 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 631911)
I can't believe I laughed that hard at my own ****up. Aces gentleman, aces.

And btw, Willfred Brimley pronounces it Di-a-be-tis.

Also, you left home my friend. It sucks royal ass here with Devy P on Beacon Hill. Looks like we're in for another 12 years of the Republican lockdown.

Edit: We have socialized medicine and *** marriage. What other state can say that?

What are you talking about? Mass does not have socialized medicine.

I may have left home but doesn't mean I stopped spending time there or stopped talking to all my family and friends who still live there.

TheBig3 04-07-2009 02:29 PM

sorry, I mean universal healthcare, I'm outta my tree today.

TheBig3 04-07-2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword (Post 631940)
Fascism isn't much worse than gang monarchy (aka what you propose).

If you want to declare socialism as the best than fine. Don't even try to tell me that socialists respect individual rights.

Political discussions lack when I don't get to hear the philosophy behind the view so if you are going to respond with criticism then please post why you think private property rights should not be respected.

what?

Inuzuka Skysword 04-07-2009 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 631984)
what?

Democracy (in the true sense) is just a synonym for gang rule. The general atmosphere of the words is different, but both words mean the same thing. The majority rules.

Since most socialists are pro-democracy in just about every way, I was attacking those socialists. He called a right-wing authoritarian a "fascist" when he (being in the green quadrant) is a "left-wing libertarian". The term "libertarian" is probably the worst political term there is because it emphasizes "liberty" above all else. The idea for people to do what they want to do is the goal of that movement. However, his leftist approach to it contradicts this because he believes that one should not be able to reap the benefits of his work. Libertarianism, when it isn't guided by a philosophy, has no meaning because either right or left wing libertarianism does not guarantee liberty in all areas. So I was beckoning him to explain his philosophical approach to libertarianism if he wanted to form a rebuttal because if he doesn't then one could just pick apart all the errors in general libertarianism.

Double X 04-07-2009 03:10 PM

Well, the idea (at least for me) is that a strong society will help the majority of the people. Individually it will not help absolutely everyone, but hopefully most people.

The Unfan 04-07-2009 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword (Post 631994)
The term "libertarian" is probably the worst political term there is because it emphasizes "liberty" above all else. The idea for people to do what they want to do is the goal of that movement. However, his leftist approach to it contradicts this because he believes that one should not be able to reap the benefits of his work.

This is probably the most intellectually dishonest thing anyone has ever posted. Emphasizing personal rights while creating programs to protect those rights is not a contradiction. The reason taxes exist is to create mutually beneficial programs and secure our liberties. Trying to get rid of government involvement based on the idea that you don't want to lose 2% of what you make in government spending to allow you to have any liberties at all is outright stupid. We are the government, the government is us. The government is by people, for the people and the security thereof.

Janszoon 04-07-2009 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 631983)
sorry, I mean universal healthcare, I'm outta my tree today.

Mass doesn't have that either.

anticipation 04-07-2009 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Unfan (Post 632049)
We are the government, the government is us. The government is by people, for the people and the security thereof.

what?

The Unfan 04-07-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 632060)
what?

I said what I meant and I meant what I said. The Unfan supports government 100%.

Thrice 04-07-2009 04:59 PM

http://www.politicalcompass.org/prin...3.25&soc=-1.85


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