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Old 06-23-2009, 06:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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not to sound elitist, but try to read my posts until they make sense.

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This makes no sense whatsoever. If there is no God, you can't blame God for religious deaths; you can blame religion for them. This is why they're "religious deaths". They'd not have occurred if not for religion, or if they did, they'd have occurred for reasons outside of religion. Religion is absolutely to blame, whether or not God exists.
what are you blaming when you blame religion? if there is no god, religion is just a front for other human drives to express themselves, and as such it is those drives you should blame for being destructive rather than 'the religion,' which is just words. words, in themselves, mean nothing.

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Atheism is not a belief it is non-belief. I've never identified my self as someone positive there is no "God" discovered or created.

As for the notion that saying you're mean implys, I'm right, no.

The simplest example is this: If you say 6754 x 3244 = 21 I know you're wrong, I may not know the right answer, but I can still spot a wrong one.

Not trying to make a semantically charged argument here, do you see my point?
the only reason you can identify an answer as wrong is because you know how to do the calculation, and you know that since you're multiplying two four digit numbers you're probably going to get a number that's at least 8 digits, etc. you have experience with math. if you have no experience with God, you are not qualified to say anything about his existence or non-existence.

i don't know, your post is a little unclear. if you've never been a person who was positive there is no God, that makes you an agnostic not an atheist. i'm not sure what you were trying to get at with that.
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