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Old 06-22-2009, 08:58 PM   #741 (permalink)
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Ok, here's the point: God made the universe, loves us for no reason, sent His son to die for our sins so we wouldn't have to, and if we believe that, we will go to heaven.
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:02 PM   #742 (permalink)
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Or so you think!
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:02 PM   #743 (permalink)
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Ok, here's the point: God made the universe, loves us for no reason, sent His son to die for our sins so we wouldn't have to, and if we believe that, we will go to heaven.
That's what you believe.
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:09 PM   #744 (permalink)
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That's what you believe.
What exactly do you believe?
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:13 PM   #745 (permalink)
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I don't know what I believe.

I don't believe in heaven.

And I don't believe in "God" persay.

But I'm waiting for something that makes more sense.
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:22 PM   #746 (permalink)
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Nothing makes more sense, so you'll be waiting for a while.
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:22 PM   #747 (permalink)
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To clarify are you saying nothing makes more sense than Christianity?
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:24 PM   #748 (permalink)
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Yes, I am. Care to say what you think does?
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:25 PM   #749 (permalink)
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Most things.
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:30 PM   #750 (permalink)
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Name one religion that does.
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