How Real Is Christianity?

Yukon Cornelius · 05-19-2009, 11:01 AM

This thread is so off subject half the freakin time.. Athiests dont care, ppl with faith do. How come we keep going into arguments that nobody can win... Great posts But 500 + posts later and nobody wins the battle.

I guess I have to say it again, you cannot prove faith wrong, with or without scientific data... Does it really matter anyhow? Think of it this way.. If there is a god, would he be so petty to damn us to hell if we didnt worship him every day? I think that ppl who are afraid of death find faith. I think ppl who look at death as part of living have come to the realization that the tooth fariy isnt real either. Me personally im not a bible thumper or a chruch going man, I have prayed before and i have lied before. I'm only human...

~~The Unfan~~ · 05-19-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

Athiests dont care, ppl with faith do.

This is a blatant lie. You can't lump all atheists into one thinking category.

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I guess I have to say it again, you cannot prove faith wrong, with or without scientific data.

Yes you can. If I had absolute faith that you had no genitals and you provided me with evidence of your genitals you would prove my faith wrong. If I accepted it or not is something else entirely.

~~TumorAttitude~~ · 05-19-2009, 09:17 PM

..........I like to believe there is a god and life after death, because if I knew for sure there wasn't, I'd probably kill myself.
I had a dream last summer about a recently deceased person......they told me they were ok, safe, ect......but that was probably just a weird dream.....

Trey · 05-20-2009, 08:16 AM

I think about this stuff every single day of my life. I can't figure anything out it's killing me.

SATCHMO · 05-20-2009, 10:23 AM

What of theistic evolutionists? Those that believe that evolution is god's chosen mode of creation. Not that I believe in an anthropomorphic god, but I believe I fall into this category.

Guybrush · 05-20-2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

What of theistic evolutionists? Those that believe that evolution is god's chosen mode of creation. Not that I believe in an anthropomorphic god, but I believe I fall into this category.

If I was a christian, that's something I could lean against. Even higher-ups in the vatican have defended evolution claiming it's compatible with christianity and for example see it as God's hand in nature.

Some sources :

The Vatican claims Darwin's theory of evolution is compatible with Christianity - Telegraph
FOXNews.com - Vatican Official Defends Evolution Against 'Useless' Creationism - Science News | Science & Technology | Technology News

I don't really know of course, but it seems to me that the separation between science and religion might be stronger in America than it is in Europe.

SATCHMO · 05-20-2009, 10:40 AM

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I don't really know of course, but it seems to me that the separation between science and religion might be stronger in America than it is in Europe.

I think it's mainly reactionary. I'm making the assumption that there's a much stronger evangelical presence in America than in Europe. I think you see more of a defensive stance to the atheism in America; a product of being proselytised by dogmatic fundamentalism. Whereas in Europe its more or less a matter of an objective understanding of a particular belief structure being incompatible with what one knows about the physical nature of reality.

SugarRush · 05-21-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

What of theistic evolutionists? Those that believe that evolution is god's chosen mode of creation. Not that I believe in an anthropomorphic god, but I believe I fall into this category.

Although I personally don't know much about people like this..I'm confused on exactly how this works. Don't most Christians believe that God created the world in 7 days and the earth is only 4000 years old? If so how can Christianity possibly be compatible with evolution? Do you mean to say you're one of those people who only believe in microevolution but not macroevolution?

Guybrush · 05-21-2009, 07:09 PM

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Although I personally don't know much about people like this..I'm confused on exactly how this works. Don't most Christians believe that God created the world in 7 days and the earth is only 4000 years old? If so how can Christianity possibly be compatible with evolution? Do you mean to say you're one of those people who only believe in microevolution but not macroevolution?

You could try not to interpret the bible so literally, yet still believe in God. I don't think that sounds so hard. As I wrote, it's pretty much the norm with christians in this country.

SugarRush · 05-22-2009, 08:31 AM

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You could try not to interpret the bible so literally, yet still believe in God. I don't think that sounds so hard. As I wrote, it's pretty much the norm with christians in this country.

Then what is that supposed to interpreted as?

05-19-2009, 11:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
Yukon Cornelius Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 625	This thread is so off subject half the freakin time.. Athiests dont care, ppl with faith do. How come we keep going into arguments that nobody can win... Great posts But 500 + posts later and nobody wins the battle. I guess I have to say it again, you cannot prove faith wrong, with or without scientific data... Does it really matter anyhow? Think of it this way.. If there is a god, would he be so petty to damn us to hell if we didnt worship him every day? I think that ppl who are afraid of death find faith. I think ppl who look at death as part of living have come to the realization that the tooth fariy isnt real either. Me personally im not a bible thumper or a chruch going man, I have prayed before and i have lied before. I'm only human... __________________ Attempting to find a cure for Stupid...

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Trey Groupie Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 42	I think about this stuff every single day of my life. I can't figure anything out it's killing me. __________________

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~~TumorAttitude~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Purgatory Posts: 749	..........I like to believe there is a god and life after death, because if I knew for sure there wasn't, I'd probably kill myself. I had a dream last summer about a recently deceased person......they told me they were ok, safe, ect......but that was probably just a weird dream.....

05-20-2009, 10:23 AM	#5 (permalink)
SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	What of theistic evolutionists? Those that believe that evolution is god's chosen mode of creation. Not that I believe in an anthropomorphic god, but I believe I fall into this category.