How Real Is Christianity?

Blue · 04-22-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by coryallen2

www.belowtopsecret.com/thread2096/pg1

listen to that audio...its crazy

I couldn't find the audio clip, but it honestly sounds really ridiculous.

I stumbled onto this while there though....

The Truth About Hell

...and couldn't believe the absurdity of their arguments.

Guybrush · 04-22-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue

...and couldn't believe the absurdity of their arguments.

It's pretty good. For example, I like this bit here :

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The earth’s crust on land is normally 50 miles thick. You’d have to go down 50 miles before the edge of the fire. But in parts of the ocean floor, the earth’s crust is less than a mile thick.

Scientists recently discovered cracks on the ocean floor where fire was leaking out. Do you know what they found around these fire-breathing vents in the crust? Eight-foot long worms, found no other place in the world! The book, The Deep Sea, by Joseph Wallace (p.39), reads, "Perhaps the strangest of ocean creatures recently discovered are Riftia, the giant tube WORMS. Measuring up to 8 feet in length, the worms are ONLY FOUND NEAR DEEP SEA VENTS."

And Jesus Christ said, "Where THEIR WORM dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Bit of biology in there

The Monkey · 04-22-2009, 03:51 PM

A question for all non-theists: Do you find it wrong to burn a bible?

I sure don't, but the people around me, even the atheists (which is most of them), usually rejects the idea.

cardboard adolescent · 04-22-2009, 04:18 PM

the nazi's kind of made the whole book-burning thing look bad

lucifer_sam · 04-22-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey

A question for all non-theists: Do you find it wrong to burn a bible?

I sure don't, but the people around me, even the atheists (which is most of them), usually rejects the idea.

would you burn the Qu'ran, Torah or Baghavad Gita? if not, why would you burn the Bible?

it's just insanely disrespectful, that's all.

Terrible Lizard · 04-22-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

would you burn the Qu'ran, Torah or Baghavad Gita? if not, why would you burn the Bible?

it's just insanely disrespectful, that's all.

I completely agree, urinating on the said documents is much more effective.

SATCHMO · 04-23-2009, 02:06 AM

If you don't believe in it, where is the value in desecrating it?

cardboard adolescent · 04-23-2009, 02:29 AM

i'm guessing it's because others believe and it's easier to define yourself by what you're not than by what you are

333 · 04-23-2009, 02:35 AM

Personally, I think it's just a waste to burn books. Not having faith in a particular book doesn't justify burning it. In another light, aren't you practicing censorship in burning books? I think we can feasible argue against the christians who participated in book-burnings/bonfires in hopes to censor their communities. How does that improve us as humanity, though?

~~coryallen2~~ · 04-23-2009, 08:00 AM

I have 2 things to say why i don't believe in god.

1. Religion is a sheild from reality.
People want to believe that there is something "worth" living for. Which leads them to believe in irrational thoughts and lifestyles.

2. The mind is to easy to trick.

Baked into most religions is the notion of duality. There’s a material body, and an immaterial “soul” that exhibits free will and lives on after death. While we don’t have full understanding of the brain yet, there’s no indication that there is such a thing. If the brain isn’t “really” where thoughts and choices are formed, what’s it for? Is it just the “hardware” on which the soul runs?
The mind is easy to trick. Religious experiences can be induced by drugs or through meditation. Drugs of various kinds profoundly affect the functioning of the brain. If your brain is damaged, consciousness may fail. This is strange if consciousness really resides in the soul. The mind is easy to trick. It is, as far as we can tell, a result of natural processes and accordingly isn’t always to be trusted. Religious experiences may be nothing more than delusions of the brain.

(I don't say that if you believe in god that you are wrong. It's you beliefes and you intitled to them.)

04-23-2009, 02:35 AM	#309 (permalink)
333 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 965	Personally, I think it's just a waste to burn books. Not having faith in a particular book doesn't justify burning it. In another light, aren't you practicing censorship in burning books? I think we can feasible argue against the christians who participated in book-burnings/bonfires in hopes to censor their communities. How does that improve us as humanity, though? Last edited by 333; 04-23-2009 at 02:38 AM. Reason: gramma, gramma, yo.

04-22-2009, 03:51 PM	#303 (permalink)
The Monkey Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 803	A question for all non-theists: Do you find it wrong to burn a bible? I sure don't, but the people around me, even the atheists (which is most of them), usually rejects the idea.

04-22-2009, 04:18 PM	#304 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	the nazi's kind of made the whole book-burning thing look bad

04-23-2009, 02:06 AM	#307 (permalink)
SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	If you don't believe in it, where is the value in desecrating it?

04-23-2009, 02:29 AM	#308 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	i'm guessing it's because others believe and it's easier to define yourself by what you're not than by what you are

04-23-2009, 08:00 AM	#310 (permalink)
~~coryallen2~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: lorain,ohio Posts: 909	I have 2 things to say why i don't believe in god. 1. Religion is a sheild from reality. People want to believe that there is something "worth" living for. Which leads them to believe in irrational thoughts and lifestyles. 2. The mind is to easy to trick. Baked into most religions is the notion of duality. There’s a material body, and an immaterial “soul” that exhibits free will and lives on after death. While we don’t have full understanding of the brain yet, there’s no indication that there is such a thing. If the brain isn’t “really” where thoughts and choices are formed, what’s it for? Is it just the “hardware” on which the soul runs? The mind is easy to trick. Religious experiences can be induced by drugs or through meditation. Drugs of various kinds profoundly affect the functioning of the brain. If your brain is damaged, consciousness may fail. This is strange if consciousness really resides in the soul. The mind is easy to trick. It is, as far as we can tell, a result of natural processes and accordingly isn’t always to be trusted. Religious experiences may be nothing more than delusions of the brain. (I don't say that if you believe in god that you are wrong. It's you beliefes and you intitled to them.)