How Real Is Christianity?

Surell · 04-05-2009, 12:51 AM

It's pretty much as real as you make it out to be. Factually, it's accurate in some aspects I think, but some of it's a little metaphorical or stuff.

sleepy jack · 04-05-2009, 12:52 AM

If you don't want to discuss it or read the discussions on it then don't open threads on it.

Terrible Lizard · 04-05-2009, 12:52 AM

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It's pretty much as real as you make it out to be. Factually, it's accurate in some aspects I think, but some of it's a little metaphorical or stuff.

How do you describe the wind?

**Janszoon** · 04-05-2009, 12:54 AM

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How do you describe the wind?

Windy.

Terrible Lizard · 04-05-2009, 12:59 AM

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Windy.

Haha, but you can't really describe it can you? Because it's all about what you feel not what you see, not what you can observe. The little you can observe is the obvious sight of objects of lighter mass and weight being carried off. And you can explain where wind comes from, but can you describe the sensation, can you give it a definate shape?

No, and perhaps that's the point.

Surell · 04-05-2009, 12:59 AM

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How do you describe the wind?

Moving air.

Terrible Lizard · 04-05-2009, 01:00 AM

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Moving air.

But what is moving air? That doesn't tell us anything, what is air? What description can you give to encompass the sensation and character of wind?

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 04-05-2009, 01:07 AM

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Exactly, but I've run into too many christians who honestly believe that non-christians are inherently immoral because they do not have God guiding them.

I think spirituality and religion can be a good thing, it's just not something I've ever been exposed to, or ever felt the need for. What someone believes is their own business, it's just when I get fed a long tirade about how empty my life is and how deprived I am and how I'm going to go to hell for not accepting Jesus as my lord and savior that I get a bit annoyed.

That's completely understandable for you to feel that way, and I suppose by how you said that it's someones own business what they believe, it also works for those who don't believe. My advice is don't let the bastards grind you down (metaphorically), you know that it's your decision and if others don't agree then that's their problem. I still think it's wonderful though when others do find a spiritual path, but everyone's life story is different and people can change.

**Janszoon** · 04-05-2009, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Terrible Lizard

Haha, but you can't really describe it can you? Because it's all about what you feel not what you see, not what you can observe. The little you can observe is the obvious sight of objects of lighter mass and weight being carried off. And you can explain where wind comes from, but can you describe the sensation, can you give it a definate shape?

No, and perhaps that's the point.

Asking someone to describe a physical sensation in visual terms is like asking someone to describe what an object looks like in terms of smell. It's a non sequitur that doesn't really make any kind of case for anything.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 04-05-2009, 01:10 AM

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But what is moving air? That doesn't tell us anything, what is air? What description can you give to encompass the sensation and character of wind?

Farts?