Slaughterhouse Abuse (doors, effect, member, quote, Hang)

Nation · 04-02-2009, 05:42 PM

Lemme start by saying that I love meat, no veg head.

I had a bit of fun with the search button, and found no records of anything like this topic, so here we go:

Generally I have nothing against the idea of slaughterhouses, but most slaughterhouses don't follow a humane method of killing their animals, much less follow the USDA's guidelines.

Most USDA inspectors are pushed out of the slaughterhouse, and can't report anything for fear of job loss or lawsuits.
Careless handling and management is leaking disease into meat sold all around the United States.
Besides the fact that it's disgusting, it's insanely cruel to the animals.
I have nothing against the circle of life, but this isn't natural killing.
It's forced and painful.
Sometimes the animals are skinned and dismembered before their dead.
The USDA has guidelines on slaughter and care for the animals that are scarce followed.
And it's all hiding behind doors and curtains because if the meat industry shut down, there would be chaos.

The way to avoid things like this getting onto your plate is to buy from local meat markets, and even fast food chains that had been petitioned till they agreed to follow guidelines.

Places to get your meat:
Local markets
Local stores
Mcdonalds, Burger King, and Wendy's all have acceptable meat

Anything bred and killed locally is likely to have better treatment and less disease than a factory farm.

Sources:
Article:
"Humane Slaughter" Is Often An Empty Promise

Accepted ways of legal slaughter:
Slaughter Red

Video information:
Prevent Animal Cruelty by Adopting a Vegetarian Diet | ChooseVeg.com

Is it just gross?
Do you agree with the treatment?
Do you not really care?
Do you think it's wrong, but like meat too much to put in the extra work?

What are your views?

(also, sorry for the tl;dr, I got nothing for ya)

sleepy jack · 04-02-2009, 06:44 PM

All slaughterhouses are abusive.

Yukon Cornelius · 04-02-2009, 07:58 PM

Its a necessary means of providing massive quantities of meat for the working men and women that would otherwise do it themselves.

I will agree some of the videos out there are quite gruesome and some of the workers are probably serial killers. However, at least there doing something productive and there desires are fulfilled .... j/k

Seriously, I agree they should up the sanitation as well as find more humane ways to slaughter these animals..

Nation · 04-02-2009, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

Its a necessary means of providing massive quantities of meat for the working men and women that would otherwise do it themselves.

I will agree some of the videos out there are quite gruesome and some of the workers are probably serial killers. However, at least there doing something productive and there desires are fulfilled .... j/k

Seriously, I agree they should up the sanitation as well as find more humane ways to slaughter these animals..

What really gets me most though is their doing it illegally while the USDA inspectors are THERE.
And the inspectors can't report because they will automatically be rebuffed by the testimonies of the workers, leading to losing their jobs.

The most effective way I've found of weeding out bad meat is to go talk to your local butcher, find out the name of the slaughterhouse, call them, and drop in.
They usually are willing to take you through if their not busy (too many accusations could be formulated if they refuse... ), and your not a minor (Damn my stupid age).
But I do know a guy who works at a local store who's been to the slaughterhouse and it's a small slaughter house, and not too bad.
They only service to stores in the area, and are therefore not too large or concerned about money.
But Tyson slaughterhouses are the worst. Too many CEO's concerned about money to care about anything that goes on in a slaughterhouse.

glutoro · 04-02-2009, 08:57 PM

Let me start by saying every time I read something like this I wish I had the self control to quit meat. I am a an animal lover, I have two cats and two dogs of my own and someday I'll have a big house and adopt more.

Slaughter Houses are getting out of control, there is no denying any of this. If there were a way to put these poor animals to sleep before death then I would be ok with that. Knowing very well that most cows are aware and still moving around and mooing while the blades are cutting through, then is indeed very sad and hurtful. There is a circle of life but that isn't it. The true circle would insist on man hunting and getting his pray and that's that. Pinning them and cutting through them like are nothing is wrong on too many levels.

To be honest I don't think the slaughter houses will ever change for the better, but rather for the worse. The government gives less and less, and cares less and less. People can protest and whine all they want but no matter the laws in place people still break them. Sad to state what maybe is a fact but this will never change.

Bane of your existence · 04-02-2009, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

Its a necessary means of providing massive quantities of meat for the working men and women that would otherwise do it themselves.

I will agree some of the videos out there are quite gruesome and some of the workers are probably serial killers. However, at least there doing something productive and there desires are fulfilled .... j/k

Seriously, I agree they should up the sanitation as well as find more humane ways to slaughter these animals..

It's not necessary that working men and women eat massive quantities of meat.

sleepy jack · 04-02-2009, 09:38 PM

He's not really saying that. He's saying that since there's a large demand for meat in the market place (which there is) slaughterhouses are necessary to meet that demand.

boo boo · 04-02-2009, 09:41 PM

Kind of an oxymoron.

I'm an unrepentant carnivore btw. But I admit we can find less painful ways of killing animals.

I think nothing bothers me more than boiling live Lobsters. I mean holy sh*t is there a worse possible way to die? Can't you like, I dunno, break their f*cking necks first or something? Well lobsters don't have necks, but geeze do something.

Though I understand the idea is because they go bad very quickly once they're dead.

Also people say lobsters don't feel pain but that's bullsh*t, they scream don't they?

Nation · 04-02-2009, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo

Kind of an oxymoron.

I'm an unrepentant carnivore btw. But I admit we can find less painful ways of killing animals.

I think nothing bothers me more than boiling live Lobsters. I mean holy sh*t is there a worse possible way to die? Can't you like, I dunno, break their f*cking necks first or something? Well lobsters don't have necks, but geeze do something.

Though I understand the idea is because they go bad very quickly once they're dead.

Also people say lobsters don't feel pain but that's bullsh*t, they scream don't they?

They broil animals at slaughterhouses alive too.
The whole slaughter industry is corrupt and disgusting.

Yukon Cornelius · 04-02-2009, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo

Kind of an oxymoron.

I'm an unrepentant carnivore btw. But I admit we can find less painful ways of killing animals.

I think nothing bothers me more than boiling live Lobsters. I mean holy sh*t is there a worse possible way to die? Can't you like, I dunno, break their f*cking necks first or something? Well lobsters don't have necks, but geeze do something.

Though I understand the idea is because they go bad very quickly once they're dead.

Also people say lobsters don't feel pain but that's bullsh*t, they scream don't they?

I not being mean here...

Do you feel bad when you step on an ant? Nah
Do lobsters really know whats going on? Nah
Does the ant? Nah

Look at it as food, after all that's why its here, for us to consume. Without it you would die. Think about eggs.. we deliberately never give the chick a chance by keeping the male chicken away from the female. That should be worse than a lobster. You gonna eat that?? j/k

04-02-2009, 05:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
Nation Groupie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 40	Slaughterhouse Abuse Lemme start by saying that I love meat, no veg head. I had a bit of fun with the search button, and found no records of anything like this topic, so here we go: Generally I have nothing against the idea of slaughterhouses, but most slaughterhouses don't follow a humane method of killing their animals, much less follow the USDA's guidelines. Most USDA inspectors are pushed out of the slaughterhouse, and can't report anything for fear of job loss or lawsuits. Careless handling and management is leaking disease into meat sold all around the United States. Besides the fact that it's disgusting, it's insanely cruel to the animals. I have nothing against the circle of life, but this isn't natural killing. It's forced and painful. Sometimes the animals are skinned and dismembered before their dead. The USDA has guidelines on slaughter and care for the animals that are scarce followed. And it's all hiding behind doors and curtains because if the meat industry shut down, there would be chaos. The way to avoid things like this getting onto your plate is to buy from local meat markets, and even fast food chains that had been petitioned till they agreed to follow guidelines. Places to get your meat: Local markets Local stores Mcdonalds, Burger King, and Wendy's all have acceptable meat Anything bred and killed locally is likely to have better treatment and less disease than a factory farm. Sources: Article: "Humane Slaughter" Is Often An Empty Promise Accepted ways of legal slaughter: Slaughter Red Video information: Prevent Animal Cruelty by Adopting a Vegetarian Diet \| ChooseVeg.com Is it just gross? Do you agree with the treatment? Do you not really care? Do you think it's wrong, but like meat too much to put in the extra work? What are your views? (also, sorry for the tl;dr, I got nothing for ya) __________________ My music channel Nation's the name, Music is my game.

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glutoro Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cutest little town in Canada. Posts: 90	Let me start by saying every time I read something like this I wish I had the self control to quit meat. I am a an animal lover, I have two cats and two dogs of my own and someday I'll have a big house and adopt more. Slaughter Houses are getting out of control, there is no denying any of this. If there were a way to put these poor animals to sleep before death then I would be ok with that. Knowing very well that most cows are aware and still moving around and mooing while the blades are cutting through, then is indeed very sad and hurtful. There is a circle of life but that isn't it. The true circle would insist on man hunting and getting his pray and that's that. Pinning them and cutting through them like are nothing is wrong on too many levels. To be honest I don't think the slaughter houses will ever change for the better, but rather for the worse. The government gives less and less, and cares less and less. People can protest and whine all they want but no matter the laws in place people still break them. Sad to state what maybe is a fact but this will never change.