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Bane of your existence · 04-08-2009, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

We have bigger fish to fry, our brothers and sisters are over in afgan getting worse treatment than the fukin cows...

Oh are they? Poor lambs.

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Human life is pain

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we go through more than cows (physically and obviously mentally), in our lifetime. Cows don't have to try, they have it pretty friggin easy until we get hungry...

I don't get what it means to go through cows mentally.

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They were put here for us to eat, and that's what we do,

Based on your religion...

So out of all the arguments against factory farming, all the health issues, environmental issues, humanitarian, and other, your argument is that we should stick on the track we're on just because?
We just have soooo much on our plate right now, why concern ourselves with eating like a human was designed to eat?

Yukon Cornelius · 04-14-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bane of your existence

Oh are they? Poor lambs.

emo

I don't get what it means to go through cows mentally.

Based on your religion...

So out of all the arguments against factory farming, all the health issues, environmental issues, humanitarian, and other, your argument is that we should stick on the track we're on just because?
We just have soooo much on our plate right now, why concern ourselves with eating like a human was designed to eat?

Could we please stray away from stupid answers like this??

Kamikazi Kat · 04-15-2009, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

No I agree with you that it's bad, but we're too reliant on it, the way we are reliant on the oil industry, putting an insta ban on it would be a disaster.

It's difficult but IMO the only way you can get rid of factory farming is to promote organic farming, that would be a long going process. But with all the time, money and energy going into promoting alternative energy sources. I don't know why we're not doing the same thing when concerning our food.

I think what would be more important is for people to eat less meat, as well as promoting either organic farming, or making slaughter houses more sanitary, with higher standards. This would be much easier to meet if the average American's diet didn't have so much meat in it. We really shouldn't eat this much meat, we don't need to eat this much meat.

~~The Unfan~~ · 04-15-2009, 03:41 AM

You should really be making less posts. You don't need to make this many posts.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 04-15-2009, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

I think to say PETA does more harm than good is a severe understatement.

They're a fascist group consisting almost entirely of f*cking idiots and douchebags.

I think they have some strange ideas about how to put their message across, like making advertisements about chicks rubbing themselves with vegetables. I'm in the belief that humans were designed to eat meat and even with evolution to the modern day we still eat it. As far as animal battery farms go I think it's cruel, unnecessary and should be stopped. That doesn't mean I'm going to stop eating meat, because it's ultimately not going to stop anything. I think instead of bitching at everyone about eating meat I think PETA should focus their energy on putting pressure on the government to have far tighter regulations on what goes on in farms. I mean regular inspections and such.

I think sometimes people like to make a song and dance for the sake of it.

Yukon Cornelius · 04-15-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

I think they have some strange ideas about how to put their message across, like making advertisements about chicks rubbing themselves with vegetables. I'm in the belief that humans were designed to eat meat and even with evolution to the modern day we still eat it. As far as animal battery farms go I think it's cruel, unnecessary and should be stopped. That doesn't mean I'm going to stop eating meat, because it's ultimately not going to stop anything. I think instead of bitching at everyone about eating meat I think PETA should focus their energy on putting pressure on the government to have far tighter regulations on what goes on in farms. I mean regular inspections and such.

I think sometimes people like to make a song and dance for the sake of it.

Homo sapiens sapiens (that's us) (our species) used to eat meat raw... Then used the hide for other things along with the rest of the cow. We still do that today (minus eating the beef raw). I agree that some methods are not suitable and that's all i have to say.

boo boo · 04-15-2009, 07:52 PM

People are gonna jump all over you for some of them comments.

But whatever, meat is awesome, and it did serve a vital role in our evolution process, we may not need it anymore, some think it's putting a stop to us evolving any further.

But then again, if evolving into a skinny, discolored hippie douchebag is the only alternative, I'd rather remain a slightly overweight apeman, just let me have my meat.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 04-15-2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

Homo sapiens sapiens (that's us) (our species) used to eat meat raw... Then used the hide for other things along with the rest of the cow. We still do that today (minus eating the beef raw). I agree that some methods are not suitable and that's all i have to say.

Do you think I'm stupid?

Guybrush · 04-16-2009, 11:22 AM

I've probably posted this, but maybe not so I'll have a go. The problem with meat, I think, is that illustratively speaking, it takes 10 kilos of grass to make 1 kilo cow. If you could eat grass, you would get 10 times more food. So then by eating meat, you have to utilize 10 times more "agricultural space" to feed the same amount of people compared to if people were eating grass.

Basically, it takes a whole lot more resources when people are on a meat diet. I think that's a bigger issue than animal cruelty in a way because it's easier to do something with animal cruelty.

We don't have to eat grass, but a way for people to use less resources on our planet would be if we ate more from the lower trophic levels. That means the lower levels of the food chain, like corn, artichokes and perhaps krill.

Anyways, I'm a hypocrite because I do like meat and I eat a lot of it. I'm a bit too cynical and I think that it doesn't make a difference what I do. Me eating corn and salad is not gonna dent what the free market meat industry does today. However, I applaud those who are idealistic and think that's a good thing. In my dark mind, I believe that in order to really make a difference, you would need government regulation. In most democratic societies today and also the future I believe, such intervention would not be popular so I don't see it happening.

I sorta posted the stemcell stuff as a joke, but it's not that far fetched. Stemcell technology can of course help with many important medical problems, but it could also let us grow beef. One of the uses for stemcell research that is being worked on is growing new organs in labs .. The step to growing steaks is not really that big. That should eliminate the animal rights problem, but it might still take a lot more resources "from the earth" than eating corn .. But you never know, I'm sure it could get pretty energy efficient compared to living cows today.

Funny as it may sound, I'm sure we'll grow meat from stemcells in the future.

Yukon Cornelius · 04-17-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tore

I've probably posted this, but maybe not so I'll have a go. The problem with meat, I think, is that illustratively speaking, it takes 10 kilos of grass to make 1 kilo cow. If you could eat grass, you would get 10 times more food. So then by eating meat, you have to utilize 10 times more "agricultural space" to feed the same amount of people compared to if people were eating grass.

Basically, it takes a whole lot more resources when people are on a meat diet. I think that's a bigger issue than animal cruelty in a way because it's easier to do something with animal cruelty.

We don't have to eat grass, but a way for people to use less resources on our planet would be if we ate more from the lower trophic levels. That means the lower levels of the food chain, like corn, artichokes and perhaps krill.

Anyways, I'm a hypocrite because I do like meat and I eat a lot of it. I'm a bit too cynical and I think that it doesn't make a difference what I do. Me eating corn and salad is not gonna dent what the free market meat industry does today. However, I applaud those who are idealistic and think that's a good thing. In my dark mind, I believe that in order to really make a difference, you would need government regulation. In most democratic societies today and also the future I believe, such intervention would not be popular so I don't see it happening.

I sorta posted the stemcell stuff as a joke, but it's not that far fetched. Stemcell technology can of course help with many important medical problems, but it could also let us grow beef. One of the uses for stemcell research that is being worked on is growing new organs in labs .. The step to growing steaks is not really that big. That should eliminate the animal rights problem, but it might still take a lot more resources "from the earth" than eating corn .. But you never know, I'm sure it could get pretty energy efficient compared to living cows today.

Funny as it may sound, I'm sure we'll grow meat from stemcells in the future.

Makes sense to me. Steak is choice though.

04-16-2009, 11:22 AM	#49 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	I've probably posted this, but maybe not so I'll have a go. The problem with meat, I think, is that illustratively speaking, it takes 10 kilos of grass to make 1 kilo cow. If you could eat grass, you would get 10 times more food. So then by eating meat, you have to utilize 10 times more "agricultural space" to feed the same amount of people compared to if people were eating grass. Basically, it takes a whole lot more resources when people are on a meat diet. I think that's a bigger issue than animal cruelty in a way because it's easier to do something with animal cruelty. We don't have to eat grass, but a way for people to use less resources on our planet would be if we ate more from the lower trophic levels. That means the lower levels of the food chain, like corn, artichokes and perhaps krill. Anyways, I'm a hypocrite because I do like meat and I eat a lot of it. I'm a bit too cynical and I think that it doesn't make a difference what I do. Me eating corn and salad is not gonna dent what the free market meat industry does today. However, I applaud those who are idealistic and think that's a good thing. In my dark mind, I believe that in order to really make a difference, you would need government regulation. In most democratic societies today and also the future I believe, such intervention would not be popular so I don't see it happening. I sorta posted the stemcell stuff as a joke, but it's not that far fetched. Stemcell technology can of course help with many important medical problems, but it could also let us grow beef. One of the uses for stemcell research that is being worked on is growing new organs in labs .. The step to growing steaks is not really that big. That should eliminate the animal rights problem, but it might still take a lot more resources "from the earth" than eating corn .. But you never know, I'm sure it could get pretty energy efficient compared to living cows today. Funny as it may sound, I'm sure we'll grow meat from stemcells in the future. __________________ Something Completely Different

04-15-2009, 03:41 AM	#44 (permalink)
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