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Old 04-05-2009, 02:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i'm more concerned about the treatment of animals by the psychological field than slaughterhouses, primarily because the meat-packing industries serve a purpose, whereas the psycho-babble bullshit field has virtually no benefit to mankind.
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Old 04-07-2009, 05:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You know what..

I think we (humans) are to freaking civil and selfless...

We (humans) are constantly trying to save trees, animals, oceans etc.. Honestly we should probably eat and be happy. We are constantly at war with each other and yet consume ourselves with the rights of cows/animals.. To me it all seems kind of silly.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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OOOHHHH, so American's need to be more hedonistic to be happy.
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Old 04-08-2009, 08:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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OOOHHHH, so American's need to be more hedonistic to be happy.
We have bigger fish to fry, our brothers and sisters are over in afgan getting worse treatment than the fukin cows...

Human life is pain, we go through more than cows (physically and obviously mentally), in our lifetime. Cows don't have to try, they have it pretty friggin easy until we get hungry...

I know what they do I've seen the videos, but like I said, there cows.. They were put here for us to eat, and that's what we do, eat them... We don't even waste the hide, your shoes probably have some cow on them as well, Do you care about that?
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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We have bigger fish to fry, our brothers and sisters are over in afgan getting worse treatment than the fukin cows...
Oh are they? Poor lambs.

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we go through more than cows (physically and obviously mentally), in our lifetime. Cows don't have to try, they have it pretty friggin easy until we get hungry...
I don't get what it means to go through cows mentally.

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So out of all the arguments against factory farming, all the health issues, environmental issues, humanitarian, and other, your argument is that we should stick on the track we're on just because?
We just have soooo much on our plate right now, why concern ourselves with eating like a human was designed to eat?
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Old 04-14-2009, 11:48 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Oh are they? Poor lambs.


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I don't get what it means to go through cows mentally.

Based on your religion...


So out of all the arguments against factory farming, all the health issues, environmental issues, humanitarian, and other, your argument is that we should stick on the track we're on just because?
We just have soooo much on our plate right now, why concern ourselves with eating like a human was designed to eat?
Could we please stray away from stupid answers like this??
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Old 04-15-2009, 06:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
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People are gonna jump all over you for some of them comments.

But whatever, meat is awesome, and it did serve a vital role in our evolution process, we may not need it anymore, some think it's putting a stop to us evolving any further.

But then again, if evolving into a skinny, discolored hippie douchebag is the only alternative, I'd rather remain a slightly overweight apeman, just let me have my meat.
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I've probably posted this, but maybe not so I'll have a go. The problem with meat, I think, is that illustratively speaking, it takes 10 kilos of grass to make 1 kilo cow. If you could eat grass, you would get 10 times more food. So then by eating meat, you have to utilize 10 times more "agricultural space" to feed the same amount of people compared to if people were eating grass.

Basically, it takes a whole lot more resources when people are on a meat diet. I think that's a bigger issue than animal cruelty in a way because it's easier to do something with animal cruelty.

We don't have to eat grass, but a way for people to use less resources on our planet would be if we ate more from the lower trophic levels. That means the lower levels of the food chain, like corn, artichokes and perhaps krill.


Anyways, I'm a hypocrite because I do like meat and I eat a lot of it. I'm a bit too cynical and I think that it doesn't make a difference what I do. Me eating corn and salad is not gonna dent what the free market meat industry does today. However, I applaud those who are idealistic and think that's a good thing. In my dark mind, I believe that in order to really make a difference, you would need government regulation. In most democratic societies today and also the future I believe, such intervention would not be popular so I don't see it happening.

I sorta posted the stemcell stuff as a joke, but it's not that far fetched. Stemcell technology can of course help with many important medical problems, but it could also let us grow beef. One of the uses for stemcell research that is being worked on is growing new organs in labs .. The step to growing steaks is not really that big. That should eliminate the animal rights problem, but it might still take a lot more resources "from the earth" than eating corn .. But you never know, I'm sure it could get pretty energy efficient compared to living cows today.

Funny as it may sound, I'm sure we'll grow meat from stemcells in the future.
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Old 04-17-2009, 08:44 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I've probably posted this, but maybe not so I'll have a go. The problem with meat, I think, is that illustratively speaking, it takes 10 kilos of grass to make 1 kilo cow. If you could eat grass, you would get 10 times more food. So then by eating meat, you have to utilize 10 times more "agricultural space" to feed the same amount of people compared to if people were eating grass.

Basically, it takes a whole lot more resources when people are on a meat diet. I think that's a bigger issue than animal cruelty in a way because it's easier to do something with animal cruelty.

We don't have to eat grass, but a way for people to use less resources on our planet would be if we ate more from the lower trophic levels. That means the lower levels of the food chain, like corn, artichokes and perhaps krill.


Anyways, I'm a hypocrite because I do like meat and I eat a lot of it. I'm a bit too cynical and I think that it doesn't make a difference what I do. Me eating corn and salad is not gonna dent what the free market meat industry does today. However, I applaud those who are idealistic and think that's a good thing. In my dark mind, I believe that in order to really make a difference, you would need government regulation. In most democratic societies today and also the future I believe, such intervention would not be popular so I don't see it happening.

I sorta posted the stemcell stuff as a joke, but it's not that far fetched. Stemcell technology can of course help with many important medical problems, but it could also let us grow beef. One of the uses for stemcell research that is being worked on is growing new organs in labs .. The step to growing steaks is not really that big. That should eliminate the animal rights problem, but it might still take a lot more resources "from the earth" than eating corn .. But you never know, I'm sure it could get pretty energy efficient compared to living cows today.

Funny as it may sound, I'm sure we'll grow meat from stemcells in the future.
Makes sense to me. Steak is choice though.
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Old 04-23-2009, 06:50 AM   #10 (permalink)
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omfg anothe peta?


IT'S A SLAUGHTER HOUSE...WHERE THEY KILL ANIMALS FOR FOOD. WHO CARES IF THEY GET ABUSED...THEY ARE GOING TO DIE.
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