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Old 04-02-2009, 09:12 AM   #31 (permalink)
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what happened to peopel that actually try NOT to be douche bags?
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Old 04-02-2009, 10:33 AM   #32 (permalink)
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i just woke up,....and would love to get in on this conversation,....but i have way to much to get done in the next few hours to go through my 'women's lib has ruined the country',....i'll be back later though
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Old 04-02-2009, 10:46 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I think a woman, to some extent, should be a caregiver for the family. It's sort of the biological initiative, is it not? I'm not going to object to a woman working in ANY job, but if she's doing so to be a liberated woman, while not giving enough time to her children because of it, I sort of see that as wrong. Though the same could be said for a father, to a much lesser extent IMO

I prolly look like a big ol' sexist now, lol
Why should it be to a lesser extent for men? If you're comparing single fathers to single mothers who work, then their situations are the same and they should care for their child the same.

Or maybe I'm misunderstanding you.
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Old 04-02-2009, 10:47 AM   #34 (permalink)
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gotta love the homogeneous society we live in wooo
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Old 04-02-2009, 02:21 PM   #35 (permalink)
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i just woke up,....and would love to get in on this conversation,....but i have way to much to get done in the next few hours to go through my 'women's lib has ruined the country',....i'll be back later though
If by lib you mean liberalism I'm assuming you're talking about feminism. In which case I'm now interested Miss Limbaugh.
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Old 04-02-2009, 02:29 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I believe nobody should be given a role to play in their life. They themselves should decide how they want to go about their business.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:33 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Don't get a male acting like a male confused with misoginy. I'm as much of a feminist as they come, and fully believe women should be treated with the upmost respect.
But men acting like men is innate, and vice-versa. This going over the top to act like the opposite gender seems so trendy and speaks to an annoying culture to me.
As far as "roles" in the household go, they are obviously a byproduct of environment. That's not what I'm talking about.
I see what you are talking about. It seems that most people are denying the whole 'woman at home, man at work' thing just because it has become the norm not to follow that stereotype, not because they believe that one shouldn't have to conform to a certain lifestyle just because of their sex. Its the same thing with so many other things. They don't belive in more progressive idea because they actually think, they just follow the standard that has been set by society.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:40 PM   #38 (permalink)
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What does a "male acting like a male" mean exactly?
I think it means a male acting like society's standard for what a male is suppose to be. Say a male is kind of the leader of the household, makes the rules, makes decisions, goes to work and makes the money. Many fathers aren't doing that because they are most capable for doing this because they have good leadership skills and a great job, but simply because they are trying to live up to society's expectations of what a man is suppose to be. The same goes for women.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:56 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I'd just like to say that I pluck my eyebrows, mainly because I don't want to look like Brežnjev, and neither should you (wish to look like Brežnjev that is), no matter what your testosterone level is. But I take it up the ass so I have no expectations of masculinity to uphold.

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Some men might be more sensitive then others, either way they are men. In some species the female is dominate, however with humans the male is.

The male is usually larger and most always stronger unless the female takes some form of testosterone to increase muscle mass/overall size. Men are not hindered by pregnancy among other things. Either way men have always been the ones to go out and catch the dinner with their spears.. Now that spear is money.

Women have been the caring nurturing type since the beginning of time. They tend to the baby and have the natural ability to feed the child as well. They are the less dominate in the human species, they are the ones that need to survive, to continue to raise the children, while the males job is to protect them.

Now its different, it is more competitive with the modern worlds resources. In the modern world you have daycare (notice its predominately women working there) and similac among other things... These items free up the woman from her natural responsibilities and allow her to be productive else where. You can see where i am going with this so I will end here..
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