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Old 04-04-2009, 11:53 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Well I'm retiring then, do your research and you will find that its not based on opinion its based on fact. If you think that it is sexist for the man to be the way he has been for 90000 years then give me a pair of breasts, so i can do the same as that of a women.

There is no opinion when it comes down to a scientific answer based off our culture, technology, and basic Knowledge which is where the resources came from.. If we were talking about something with a broader meaning there would not be this type of impact, but to carry on this thread is pointless.

You know why your here, and your role, if its sexist then you question natures design not mine. Your obvious neglect to understand what Im saying or cop out tactics are ridiculous. You have no argument with me and I am not arguing with you. I will admit that I have been drinking, so it is easier for me to lay down the obvious, which by the way should not offend you since we need both male and female =. Don't say its and opinion since its fact, and since by saying that you basically say you have no reason to be here which is also not true. (please by the way, I know you know what i mean and I have been drinking, so dont try to avoid what i am saying cause ill get you when im sober)

SNL is on , Seth Rogan is on, and I dont have time right now to agree with anyone, do me a favor and do some research before you post. I have had this problem myself and only hope that you don't continue to make the same mistakes i did. Opinions are how you perceive something, facts will destroy them, thus changing your thought and opinion .

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well, it is somewhat reassuring to find out that you're hammered. I mean even for music banter standards your posts and arguments have been incredibly incoherent.

News flash genius, I stated in my post, that you quoted, that men's brains have been found to be more right-brain oriented, which supposedly makes them better suited to science and math. My point was that the nature of scientific and mathematical research positions require a lot of creative thinking because of how far we've come, and thus it is no longer a requirement to have a right-brained dominant thinker in these positions.

But I guess in your drunken state you missed that (by the way I'm being kind in letting you blame it on the alcohol, it doesn't kill off THAT many brain cells).

In no where in that post did I say anything about someone being sexist. You also started blabbering on about men being the same way for 90000 years, so I can only assume you're dredging up your evolution argument. I don't agree with you that humans have not evolved at all in the past 90000 years, mostly because I believe we comprehend different things in the idea of evolution. But, like I said, that is not the topic of conversation, so if you want to talk about what is evolution and what is scientific progress, then start a new thread.

lastly, I really have no idea what the hell you were on about with this last post. I did my best to pick out any kind of sense out of that lucid mess, but I didn't exactly have a lot to work with, so I'm sure you'll find enough "vital points" that I missed out on to warrant another rambling mess of letters.
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Old 04-04-2009, 11:58 PM   #132 (permalink)
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News flash genius, I stated in my post, that you quoted, that men's brains have been found to be more right-brain oriented, which supposedly makes them better suited to science and math. My point was that the nature of scientific and mathematical research positions require a lot of creative thinking because of how far we've come, and thus it is no longer a requirement to have a right-brained dominant thinker in these positions.Find that cause thats bs... nice try look harder...
I never stated that.. So I have no idea what your talking about.

Thanks for being wrong..
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Old 04-04-2009, 11:59 PM   #133 (permalink)
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But I guess in your drunken state you missed that (by the way I'm being kind in letting you blame it on the alcohol, it doesn't kill off THAT many brain cells).


I'm quoting this Jibber it's comic gold.
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Old 04-05-2009, 12:01 AM   #134 (permalink)
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Find that cause thats bs... nice try look harder...
find....that....cause...thats...bs........nice.... try....look...harder.....

Nope, even if I read really slowly I still have no idea what the f*ck that's supposed to mean. Speak english.
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Old 04-05-2009, 12:03 AM   #135 (permalink)
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I never stated that.. So I have no idea what your talking about.

Thanks for being wrong..
Um...no...you didn't state that. I stated it. And you quoted it. And since you QUOTED THAT, I obviously assumed you wouldn't be so dumb as to quote a post of mine with no intention of writing a reply that related to it in any way...

edit: It just occurred to me that you might not have been able to read the posts after yours. If you had been, you would have found that zzz had made a post about men typically being better suited to math and science, to which Vanilla responded, to which I then responded. No one had bothered to address you in the conversation since I at least had assumed you had nothing more to add to the topic (which I was apparently right about). Now go watch seth rogan and for god's sake sober up before posting in any thread again. You're bad enough sober.
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Old 04-05-2009, 12:25 AM   #136 (permalink)
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Classified as extremely sexist! While I was still unsure how I should feel about this issue, I know for a fact that I'm not thinking of women as lesser human beings than men, so please go marry an f'ing Klan member before you decide to call me "extremely sexist" and "offensive" again.

That being said, I've been convinced. I m rong and u r rite! I suppose the main reason I had these feelings in the first place is because I had never seen any evidence of a male-caregiver family working, and goodness knows that the media didn't help. Afer looking up stuff to defend my point, I ended up converting
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Old 04-05-2009, 12:31 AM   #137 (permalink)
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Classified as extremely sexist! While I was still unsure how I should feel about this issue, I know for a fact that I'm not thinking of women as lesser human beings than men, so please go marry an f'ing Klan member before you decide to call me "extremely sexist" and "offensive" again.

That being said, I've been convinced. I m rong and u r rite!
Ok before you get your panties in a knot (see...sexist joke can be funny) let me explain that I do not think that you at all gave the impression that you thought women to be lesser human beings than men.

However, I think that the term "sexist" has moved beyond describing someone who thinks of women as lesser beings than men. In my opinion, it is sexist to say that a woman should be expected to abandon her career for the sake of the child, while the man has no such obligation, just because the woman has different plumbing. Now obviously you don't feel that those remarks are in any way offensive, but I'm just telling you that I DO find them to be.

Well now you've gone and changed your post. So obviously in light of your addition most of what I said no longer applies then.
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Old 04-05-2009, 12:32 AM   #138 (permalink)
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Classified as extremely sexist! While I was still unsure how I should feel about this issue, I know for a fact that I'm not thinking of women as lesser human beings than men, so please go marry an f'ing Klan member before you decide to call me "extremely sexist" and "offensive" again.

That being said, I've been convinced. I m rong and u r rite! I suppose the main reason I had these feelings in the first place is because I had never seen any evidence of a male-caregiver family working, and goodness knows that the media didn't help. Afer looking up stuff to defend my point, I ended up converting
Ignorance can be bliss, but it can also make you look closed-minded. It's good to hear however that you can accept that male roles can extend to those of females too.
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Old 04-05-2009, 12:37 AM   #139 (permalink)
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Classified as extremely sexist! While I was still unsure how I should feel about this issue, I know for a fact that I'm not thinking of women as lesser human beings than men, so please go marry an f'ing Klan member before you decide to call me "extremely sexist" and "offensive" again.

That being said, I've been convinced. I m rong and u r rite! I suppose the main reason I had these feelings in the first place is because I had never seen any evidence of a male-caregiver family working, and goodness knows that the media didn't help. Afer looking up stuff to defend my point, I ended up converting
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I think breaking free of normal evolutionary patterns is unnatural. I can handle it to a certain extent, but it reaches a point where either the children or the father has to suffer for the woman to break free of her natural biology. However unnatural raising young children may feel to some women, I would think it feels just as unnatural to men, if not moreso. But I still do have to give this some thought.
I think the problem you're having, and that roygbiv and adidasss are missing, is that you're dashing over major points to come to a conclusion here.

I think Ethan was right to ask what you mean here by "evolution." The implication is that something naturally happened to prevent women from working, and that it wasn't a man made construct. By implying that alone you're going to piss people off so if you didn't mean it was natural rephrase, and if you did, state why.

If a woman joins the work force, how (and we'll need specifics here) are men or children suffering?

And did you mean "suffer?" I'm not sure how the man suffers period, but with the children I guess there could be some implied instances, with a case like latch key children, but you'd be operating under a huge about of variables there.

As for how natural it feels to raise a child, thats got more to do with the person and their upbringing than it does with nature. Some people find children to be a burden, some love the idea of teaching children.

Evolution is the process of natural selection, not Calvinist creationism.
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