Is the T.V. a brainwash device or are people just parnoid (magazine, shows)

Yukon Cornelius · 03-25-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by zzz

I' m with the others here in that I don't see at all how I'm brainwashed by television. The reason cell phones have become so popular is because of convenience purposes, how are cell phones any different from, say, Thomas Edison's lightbulb? It became huge because it's far more convenient than using candles, so I don't see your point. Also, people know what they want. If they want to buy the latest fashion acessory, let them. Why should what they do impact you?

I used it as an example. If its for convenience then why is it required. I though i was allowed to have options. I have a home phone and a phone at work, why is it required I spend 60-70 dollars more a month? there are call boxes all up and down the highway. There are also payphones everywhere you go. I would much rather use a free call box, a pay phone here or there and my home and office phone then shell out a wasted 60-70 dollars a month on a phone call that i didnt want anyway. So I ask you should I walk around with a light blub in my pocket even though I have no light socket to stick it in?

This is where I am at. Am I just a freakin product as well.

sleepy jack · 03-25-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

I used it as an example. If its for convenience then why is it required. I though i was allowed to have options. I have a home phone and a phone at work, why is it required I spend 60-70 dollars more a month? there are call boxes all up and down the highway. There are also payphones everywhere you go. I would much rather use a free call box, a pay phone here or there and my home and office phone then shell out a wasted 60-70 dollars a month on a phone call that i didnt want anyway. So I ask you should I walk around with a light blub in my pocket even though I have no light socket to stick it in?

If you have no light socket to place the light bulb in then you have no use for the light bulb. You kind of end up losing your own argument there you know.

Yukon Cornelius · 03-25-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack

If you have no light socket to place the light bulb in then you have no use for the light bulb. You kind of end up losing your own argument there you know.

If i have no use for a cell phone then i should not have one. GET IT?
Instead I am forced to have one for others needs (the people who buy in) . Not that hard.

midnight rain · 03-25-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

If i have no use for a cell phone then i should not have one. GET IT?
Instead I am forced to have one for others needs (the people who buy in) . Not that hard.

For the hundred thousandth time, the people who "buy in" to cellphones are doing it for CONVENIENCE purposes, it has nothing to do with the latest fashion. How would that have any relevancy to a corporation anyway?

Yukon, I bet you could name a thousand items you own that you have no necessary use for but still choose to use on a regular basis. The machine you're using to discuss with me this matter for starters?

Yukon Cornelius · 03-25-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by zzz

For the hundred thousandth time, the people who "buy in" to cellphones are doing it for CONVENIENCE purposes, it has nothing to do with the latest fashion. How would that have any relevancy to a corporation anyway?

Yukon, I bet you could name a thousand items you own that you have no necessary use for but still choose to use on a regular basis. The machine you're using to discuss with me this matter for starters?

Agreed to a certain extent. However I choose to have a pc for my own reasons not yours or anyone elses. I as well in pervious posts here admitted to my own endulgences. Its obviously brainwashing.

midnight rain · 03-25-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

I used it as an example. If its for convenience then why is it required. I though i was allowed to have options. I have a home phone and a phone at work, why is it required I spend 60-70 dollars more a month? there are call boxes all up and down the highway. There are also payphones everywhere you go. I would much rather use a free call box, a pay phone here or there and my home and office phone then shell out a wasted 60-70 dollars a month on a phone call that i didnt want anyway.

1. Show me a company that requires it (I honestly haven't heard of one and would love to be proven wrong, it'd make my day)

2. Those call boxes and pay phones you're talking about? They're useful if you need to reach someone. But would if that someone needs to reach you?

None of this has anything to do with TV by the way, you said it yourself the cellphone in the workplace matter is one of convenience

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So I ask you should I walk around with a light blub in my pocket even though I have no light socket to stick it in?

Umm, what?

Care to expand on that one?

Yukon Cornelius · 03-25-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by zzz

1. Show me a company that requires it (I honestly haven't heard of one and would love to be proven wrong, it'd make my day)

2. Those call boxes and pay phones you're talking about? They're useful if you need to reach someone. But would if that someone needs to reach you?

None of this has anything to do with TV by the way, you said it yourself the cellphone in the workplace matter is one of convenience

Umm, what?

Care to expand on that one?

Are you F-ing serious?? Can you here me now Mother@#$%^&??? Cellphones are all over the TV... You need to think Before you write.

If someone needs to get a hold of me Then they can pay my F-ing bill, how about that.

mr dave · 03-25-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by zzz

1. Show me a company that requires it (I honestly haven't heard of one and would love to be proven wrong, it'd make my day)

actually bell aliant in eastern canada does this. they're a telecommunications company that started with land line phones, then moved into high speed internet, and recently branched off into satellite tv.

here's the kicker though, even if you have high speed internet with them (like the service i'm using RIGHT NOW to post this comment). if you want to get satellite tv they REQUIRE that you also get a phone line, nevermind that the tv service uses their internet backbone; nevermind that their long distance phone service sucks ass compared to the voip line we already have. if we wanted satellite tv in the apartment we needed to get another phone...

it's hard to say how this is being handled, my roommate filed formal complaints with the CRTC (Canadian Radio and Telecommunications Commission) but they proved to be worthless and pussyfooted around his complaint.

as for the whole norway vs. the world, uhh yeah... WTF? i've always liked those scandanavian countries, plus jaga jazzist is from norway so the nation is an automatic yay! in my book.

idol worship and the cult of personality are not concepts that are native to any specific nation. it happens everywhere. tv just makes it far simpler to spread the shenanigans. so long as people continue considering their wants as needs they'll continue to allow themselves to be lead by the nose through whatever means available.

midnight rain · 03-25-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

actually bell aliant in eastern canada does this. they're a telecommunications company that started with land line phones, then moved into high speed internet, and recently branched off into satellite tv.

here's the kicker though, even if you have high speed internet with them (like the service i'm using RIGHT NOW to post this comment). if you want to get satellite tv they REQUIRE that you also get a phone line, nevermind that the tv service uses their internet backbone; nevermind that their long distance phone service sucks ass compared to the voip line we already have. if we wanted satellite tv in the apartment we needed to get another phone...

it's hard to say how this is being handled, my roommate filed formal complaints with the CRTC (Canadian Radio and Telecommunications Commission) but they proved to be worthless and pussyfooted around his complaint.

as for the whole norway vs. the world, uhh yeah... WTF? i've always liked those scandanavian countries, plus jaga jazzist is from norway so the nation is an automatic yay! in my book.

idol worship and the cult of personality are not concepts that are native to any specific nation. it happens everywhere. tv just makes it far simpler to spread the shenanigans. so long as people continue considering their wants as needs they'll continue to allow themselves to be lead by the nose through whatever means available.

Ah, good sir, but we were talking about USA! We were also talking about companies that require employees to have cell phones, not customers (I think)

Nonetheless, I'm sure there are some companies in the USA that require cell phones. It was simply an honest question I had as I haven't heard of any companies yet

mr dave · 03-25-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by zzz

Ah, good sir, but we were talking about USA! We were also talking about companies that require employees to have cell phones, not customers (I think)

Nonetheless, I'm sure there are some companies in the USA that require cell phones. It was simply an honest question I had as I haven't heard of any companies yet

my bad, i took it as the necessity of paying for one media to get the other haha.

there are PLENTY of companies out there that require employees to carry cell phones or blackberries, they're always paid for by the company though. then again i'm still thinking in canadian terms here

unless you're a cabbie or a pizza delivery guy, if cell phone use is a necessary part of your job then it's provided to you and paid for by your employer.

i get the impression yukon cornelius 'thinks' he needs a cell phone because he's constantly exposed to the idea of needing one on tv.