Is the T.V. a brainwash device or are people just parnoid (American, shows)

midnight rain · 03-25-2009, 01:06 PM

I' m with the others here in that I don't see at all how I'm brainwashed by television. The reason cell phones have become so popular is because of convenience purposes, how are cell phones any different from, say, Thomas Edison's lightbulb? It became huge because it's far more convenient than using candles, so I don't see your point. Also, people know what they want. If they want to buy the latest fashion acessory, let them. Why should what they do impact you?

Yukon Cornelius · 03-25-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by zzz

I' m with the others here in that I don't see at all how I'm brainwashed by television. The reason cell phones have become so popular is because of convenience purposes, how are cell phones any different from, say, Thomas Edison's lightbulb? It became huge because it's far more convenient than using candles, so I don't see your point. Also, people know what they want. If they want to buy the latest fashion acessory, let them. Why should what they do impact you?

I used it as an example. If its for convenience then why is it required. I though i was allowed to have options. I have a home phone and a phone at work, why is it required I spend 60-70 dollars more a month? there are call boxes all up and down the highway. There are also payphones everywhere you go. I would much rather use a free call box, a pay phone here or there and my home and office phone then shell out a wasted 60-70 dollars a month on a phone call that i didnt want anyway. So I ask you should I walk around with a light blub in my pocket even though I have no light socket to stick it in?

This is where I am at. Am I just a freakin product as well.

lucifer_sam · 03-25-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jgd85

oh you do, how good for you! do you ever make a post about something other than how norway is so much better than america? so far you mock america for its disciplinary choices, health care system, obsession with celebrities, and im sure there is more that i have missed. anything else youd like to share with us? does norways citizens flatulence smell like cinnamon rolls?

as far as tv being a brainwash device, the programming is set up that way but it is avoidable. as previously mentioned, you can choose your own content. obviously there is a lot more to be learned watching the history\discovery channel than vh1\mtv\reality bull****. i equate trash tv to ****ty fiction novels with less vocabulary.

I don't think toretorden has ever offered the impression that he was mocking America. He might have less deep an understanding of American culture than you or I, but that's certainly not a crime (nor is it necessary to participate in this forum or this discussion).

sleepy jack · 03-25-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

I used it as an example. If its for convenience then why is it required. I though i was allowed to have options. I have a home phone and a phone at work, why is it required I spend 60-70 dollars more a month? there are call boxes all up and down the highway. There are also payphones everywhere you go. I would much rather use a free call box, a pay phone here or there and my home and office phone then shell out a wasted 60-70 dollars a month on a phone call that i didnt want anyway. So I ask you should I walk around with a light blub in my pocket even though I have no light socket to stick it in?

If you have no light socket to place the light bulb in then you have no use for the light bulb. You kind of end up losing your own argument there you know.

sleepy jack · 03-25-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

I don't think toretorden has ever offered the impression that he was mocking America. He might have less deep an understanding of American culture than you or I, but that's certainly not a crime (nor is it necessary to participate in this forum or this discussion).

Not only is it not a crime but it's also rather arrogant to expect him to have a certain level of knowledge about American culture when I doubt jgd85 has a similar amount of knowledge about Norwegian culture.

midnight rain · 03-25-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

I used it as an example. If its for convenience then why is it required. I though i was allowed to have options. I have a home phone and a phone at work, why is it required I spend 60-70 dollars more a month? there are call boxes all up and down the highway. There are also payphones everywhere you go. I would much rather use a free call box, a pay phone here or there and my home and office phone then shell out a wasted 60-70 dollars a month on a phone call that i didnt want anyway.

1. Show me a company that requires it (I honestly haven't heard of one and would love to be proven wrong, it'd make my day)

2. Those call boxes and pay phones you're talking about? They're useful if you need to reach someone. But would if that someone needs to reach you?

None of this has anything to do with TV by the way, you said it yourself the cellphone in the workplace matter is one of convenience

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So I ask you should I walk around with a light blub in my pocket even though I have no light socket to stick it in?

Umm, what?

Care to expand on that one?

Yukon Cornelius · 03-25-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack

I'm not arguing semantics. For one it's spelled semantics; the second letter is e. Secondly, arguing semantics would be arguing over specifically over linguistic development or the relationships between signs. By definition I have not argued semantics until just now. Open a book once in awhile.

Now onto the actual argument. You're still not answering my question. Your average person doesn't have "sleepless nights and cold sweats" over these popular items. They still place a good deal of value in them, that's why it's materialistic. You've taken a stance against these items, which is refusing to purchase them until it's necessary. That is placing, or rather specifically not placing, value in them. Which is anti-materialistic. Aside from one stance being a negative and the other a positive, at its heart, how are you any different? It can't be that difficult to address this question.

I didnt need it, I was told to have it. I base this off the Idea that its forced upon me by the overwelming desire people have for material. How is that hard for you to understand webster (sleepy) Guess i should have said you read me wrong sleepy.

I find this interesting.

Semantics: the language used (as in advertising or political propaganda) to achieve a desired effect on an audience especially through the use of words with novel or dual meanings

Yukon Cornelius · 03-25-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack

If you have no light socket to place the light bulb in then you have no use for the light bulb. You kind of end up losing your own argument there you know.

If i have no use for a cell phone then i should not have one. GET IT?
Instead I am forced to have one for others needs (the people who buy in) . Not that hard.

Yukon Cornelius · 03-25-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by zzz

1. Show me a company that requires it (I honestly haven't heard of one and would love to be proven wrong, it'd make my day)

2. Those call boxes and pay phones you're talking about? They're useful if you need to reach someone. But would if that someone needs to reach you?

None of this has anything to do with TV by the way, you said it yourself the cellphone in the workplace matter is one of convenience

Umm, what?

Care to expand on that one?

Are you F-ing serious?? Can you here me now Mother@#$%^&??? Cellphones are all over the TV... You need to think Before you write.

If someone needs to get a hold of me Then they can pay my F-ing bill, how about that.

midnight rain · 03-25-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

If i have no use for a cell phone then i should not have one. GET IT?
Instead I am forced to have one for others needs (the people who buy in) . Not that hard.

For the hundred thousandth time, the people who "buy in" to cellphones are doing it for CONVENIENCE purposes, it has nothing to do with the latest fashion. How would that have any relevancy to a corporation anyway?

Yukon, I bet you could name a thousand items you own that you have no necessary use for but still choose to use on a regular basis. The machine you're using to discuss with me this matter for starters?

03-25-2009, 01:06 PM	#41 (permalink)
midnight rain Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,711	I' m with the others here in that I don't see at all how I'm brainwashed by television. The reason cell phones have become so popular is because of convenience purposes, how are cell phones any different from, say, Thomas Edison's lightbulb? It became huge because it's far more convenient than using candles, so I don't see your point. Also, people know what they want. If they want to buy the latest fashion acessory, let them. Why should what they do impact you?