Is the T.V. a brainwash device or are people just parnoid (cover, shows)

Antonio · 03-24-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by stu

if you're going to say tv is a brainwashing device then you have to say newspapers, magazines, literature, the internet and music are too. The only thing wrong with tv is the quality of 90% of the output and commercials.

Parents who harp on about the influence television violence, sex and blah blah has oh their children need to get their fingers out of their arses and be more proactive in their development. They forget it can also be insightful and educational... Although unless you're watching the discovery channel or its affiliates is rare these days.

discovery channel ftw!

Kamikazi Kat · 03-24-2009, 10:32 PM

I'm not sure about the general population, but I know I don't watch the same stuff they do. I usually spend my time watching pointless stuff like Adult Swim, or interesting stuff like the Discovery or History channel. I don't think I've ever watched an entire newscast on TV, they bore me, they are generally annoying. I certainly don't think it is a brainwash divice, but I can really only say that goes for me. I don't think you can put all of the blame on TV, its really both the people and the tools used to "inform" them. People will always be paranoid, and there will always be people playing up on this. TV is just one of the many forms that it appears in.

Yukon Cornelius · 03-25-2009, 07:10 AM

TV to me is more convincing things move there more flashy, not that magazines, lit, ect dont do the same thing, just not in the same capacity. I should have mentioned them though I suppose. Either way I was curious on others opinions. I look at the world today and Basically know that there are more people stressed out over what to wear than there credit score. Also I have noticed the rise in political figures using High ratings shows that are non political in nature to further get their image out there to people who dont watch the depressing news. I know that they have in the past as well but It just seems more prevelent these days.

T.V. was originaly designed to past infomation and provide entertainment, and it still does, However with the rise of people trying to base there lives on certain celebrity figures , and constant political pummeling on top rated T.v. shows makes you wonder if there is more than meets the eye.

Yukon Cornelius · 03-25-2009, 07:11 AM

TV to me is more convincing things move there more flashy, not that magazines, lit, ect dont do the same thing, just not in the same capacity. I should have mentioned them though I suppose. Either way I was curious on others opinions. I look at the world today and Basically know that there are more people stressed out over what to wear than there credit score. Also I have noticed the rise in political figures using High ratings shows that are non political in nature to further get their image out there to people who dont watch the depressing news. I know that they have in the past as well but It just seems more prevelent these days.

T.V. was originaly designed to past infomation and provide entertainment, and it still does, However with the rise of people trying to base there lives on certain celebrity figures , and constant political pummeling on top rated T.v. shows makes you wonder if there is more than meets the eye.

TheBig3 · 03-25-2009, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

I think it depends on how much time you spend watching it and how much as you use it as your basis for reality.

this.

if all I did every day was brush my teeth I would actually erode them out of my face.

The only thing you don't need to do in moderation is take Vitamin C. You can't piss out television excess.

joyboyo53 · 03-25-2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by toretorden

It's sad that when watching telly, you usually have to spend a lot of time watching attempts at manipulating you .. and they work too, even if you don't believe it.

I like a lot of TV, but I don't like how the market tries to manipulate viewers. We have one channel here which is free of commercials and it's bliss.

It's interesting .. In Norway, we don't normally worship our celebrities. Instead, we think of them more as regular people. They don't necessarily make that much more money than the average Joe here, so the big difference between them and you is usually that they work in TV or radio.

oh you do, how good for you! do you ever make a post about something other than how norway is so much better than america? so far you mock america for its disciplinary choices, health care system, obsession with celebrities, and im sure there is more that i have missed. anything else youd like to share with us? does norways citizens flatulence smell like cinnamon rolls?

as far as tv being a brainwash device, the programming is set up that way but it is avoidable. as previously mentioned, you can choose your own content. obviously there is a lot more to be learned watching the history\discovery channel than vh1\mtv\reality bull****. i equate trash tv to ****ty fiction novels with less vocabulary.

Guybrush · 03-25-2009, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jgd85

oh you do, how good for you! do you ever make a post about something other than how norway is so much better than america? so far you mock america for its disciplinary choices, health care system, obsession with celebrities, and im sure there is more that i have missed. anything else youd like to share with us? does norways citizens flatulence smell like cinnamon rolls?

Well, sometimes people post something about what they think is the general state of things. If that's not the general state for me in the corner of the world I'm in, I tend to specify. I also take care to state if something is an opinion, if something relates to a specific geographical region or if something I say is backed by sources.

If you feel offended by my posts, that's not my intention. For example, when I wrote "90% of american parents use corporal punishment", that's because it's what it says word for word in the article I found and quoted. The research could've been done in England or Paraguay, but hey, it wasn't. Conditions etc. from America are gonna be overrepresented in studies and are gonna be compared with because you live in the world's bellybutton and you guys are highly represented on this forum. If you feel I'm mocking you guys, then perhaps you're either misunderstanding my posts or you don't like the objectively described America.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-25-2009, 12:11 PM

TV is too stupid to do that.

I don't see myself being brainwashed by Ready Steady Cook anytime soon.

sleepy jack · 03-25-2009, 12:19 PM

Television didn't invent apathy and stupidity anymore than the Manhattan Project invented anger and war. It's easy to look at television and the seduction which happens between the viewer and the viewed and go "well there's the problem" but it doesn't have much bearing on reality. Television isn't out to brainwash you; it's out to be liked. That's essentially the difference between "real art (and I almost gag using that term)" and popular art. It's the goal of the "artist" in most cases, when it comes to popular art, to figure out what the masses, or at the very least a large audience of people want, and then supplying it. There's always been a strong Western distaste for actual human suffering (I don't mean in the soap opera sense) so you're never going to see television as a whole show that side of things. Instead you're going to see it try and act as a form of electronic anesthetic.

Yukon Cornelius · 03-25-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

TV is too stupid to do that.

I don't see myself being brainwashed by Ready Steady Cook anytime soon.

Do you watch television? Do you consider everything you own nessesity? If not then you have been had.

Regardless of how you try and explain to us your that headstrong, its BS. Everyone is a victim of TV propaganda. Enjoy having your head in the clouds.

Im sure at some point you have felt proud of having something frivolous, or have bragged about something, possibly even the statement you made about how you are above it all just to make ppl think a certain way about you. Its all about image these days brother, worse than it has ever been. Question 2 would be have you ever had a maxed out credit card thats the most horrible example of being had ever...

PS I might sound like a jerk, but I'm just trying to get a point across.

03-25-2009, 07:10 AM	#23 (permalink)
Yukon Cornelius Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 625	TV to me is more convincing things move there more flashy, not that magazines, lit, ect dont do the same thing, just not in the same capacity. I should have mentioned them though I suppose. Either way I was curious on others opinions. I look at the world today and Basically know that there are more people stressed out over what to wear than there credit score. Also I have noticed the rise in political figures using High ratings shows that are non political in nature to further get their image out there to people who dont watch the depressing news. I know that they have in the past as well but It just seems more prevelent these days. T.V. was originaly designed to past infomation and provide entertainment, and it still does, However with the rise of people trying to base there lives on certain celebrity figures , and constant political pummeling on top rated T.v. shows makes you wonder if there is more than meets the eye. __________________ Attempting to find a cure for Stupid...

03-25-2009, 07:11 AM	#24 (permalink)
Yukon Cornelius Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 625	TV to me is more convincing things move there more flashy, not that magazines, lit, ect dont do the same thing, just not in the same capacity. I should have mentioned them though I suppose. Either way I was curious on others opinions. I look at the world today and Basically know that there are more people stressed out over what to wear than there credit score. Also I have noticed the rise in political figures using High ratings shows that are non political in nature to further get their image out there to people who dont watch the depressing news. I know that they have in the past as well but It just seems more prevelent these days. T.V. was originaly designed to past infomation and provide entertainment, and it still does, However with the rise of people trying to base there lives on certain celebrity figures , and constant political pummeling on top rated T.v. shows makes you wonder if there is more than meets the eye. __________________ Attempting to find a cure for Stupid...

03-25-2009, 12:11 PM	#28 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	TV is too stupid to do that. I don't see myself being brainwashed by Ready Steady Cook anytime soon. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

03-24-2009, 10:32 PM	#22 (permalink)
Kamikazi Kat Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 329	I'm not sure about the general population, but I know I don't watch the same stuff they do. I usually spend my time watching pointless stuff like Adult Swim, or interesting stuff like the Discovery or History channel. I don't think I've ever watched an entire newscast on TV, they bore me, they are generally annoying. I certainly don't think it is a brainwash divice, but I can really only say that goes for me. I don't think you can put all of the blame on TV, its really both the people and the tools used to "inform" them. People will always be paranoid, and there will always be people playing up on this. TV is just one of the many forms that it appears in.