Is the T.V. a brainwash device or are people just parnoid (quote, band)

boo boo · 04-17-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

So you say its mean?

Come on boo boo, think about how trained ppl are.. Its as if everyone has to make up excuses... I was basically making a point honestly it could be anything, but the crap smearing gets attention, why?

I will tell you why, the same reason that people put coffee cans on there car exhaust, put 20 inch rims on there cars, where ridiculous jewlery they cant really afford, fall into massive debt, but cellular phones with plans they can't afford, drive cars they can't afford... you can see it everywhere, its everywhere you look. People are more concearned with there "image" than they are with what matters most. Who declares that image? not you thats where the crap smearing comes into place, its an attempt to get your attention to what I am talking about.

Basically all that is frivoulus is crap and we (me included) smear it all over our faces every day. you and who ever else can deny what ever you want but you know that if you have to lie than its a bigger problems than those who can address it.

My weaknesses are for me to know, my message is not rude it is awarness. I would appreciate if you looked at it like that.

Wanting to get attention is a basic aspect of human nature, it's not something the media invented. And you're obviously trying to get attention right now, so you're being hypocritical.

Also you're making no sense, you're saying that if someone dresses flamboyantly, they want attention, BUT they're doing it because the media tells them to.

Would you prefer it if we all dressed the same? Because you insulted her for not dressing like you, so you seem to be endorsing what you're saying you're rebelling against. Conformity.

And maybe just maybe, she just likes the way it looks and that's how she wants to express herself? It's not a stretch.

You need to put emphasis on peoples personal feelings before you insult their appearance. It's not being honest, it's being a jerk. These are opinions you have the right to have but when in the company of other people you should best keep that stuff to yourself.

You're not being a rebel, people say what you say all the time, on television and in movies, everything is corporate branded, including the kind of thing you're doing right now, it's utterly impossible to dress a certain way or do a certain thing that the media HASN'T cashed in on, that doesn't make you a conformist or an idiot for doing it anyway. Because people do have a choice from a variety of things, the media is not forcing anybody to dress up like a scenester. People are choosing to do it. And people, while they can certainly be influenced by the media, are not all stupid sheep like you're saying they are.

Fashion trends come and go, that has been the case since the history of man. Just about every art movement and every musical movement has had a fashion line to go with it, that's just the way it is. Kids are gonna dress different from old folks, we should accept that because we dressed differently from our parents, they dressed different from their parents, and so on. So if it's conformity because the media is selling it, eveyrone is a conformist, but that includes you and you have no right to insult other people for it. At the same time young generations are always embracing something new and different despite their parents wanting them to accept their own traditions, that is nonconformist in a way, and a normal part of human nature and the parent/child relationship.

I think you're just looking for an excuse to rant about something. I don't know what cause you're fighting for, but whatever it is, it doesn't give you license to be a jerk to people.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 04-17-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

Seems like I get the short end of the stick in every debate... "Yes Yukon your right, but."

You take every letter of every word I write and assume I'm angey or some crap. You say all kinds of mean **** to me on every reply and I have yet to be mean. Just because I might not use the most appealing analogy does not mean I dislike anyone. It means I am trying to get a point across.

You said I was angry and that I am a lier which I have no idea what that was in relevance to.

You continuously jump from one thing to the next and never explain why you say certain things so how do you expect to be taken seriously?

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

So you say its mean?

Come on boo boo, think about how trained ppl are.. Its as if everyone has to make up excuses... I was basically making a point honestly it could be anything, but the crap smearing gets attention, why?

I will tell you why, the same reason that people put coffee cans on there car exhaust, put 20 inch rims on there cars, where ridiculous jewlery they cant really afford, fall into massive debt, but cellular phones with plans they can't afford, drive cars they can't afford... you can see it everywhere, its everywhere you look. People are more concearned with there "image" than they are with what matters most. Who declares that image? not you thats where the crap smearing comes into place, its an attempt to get your attention to what I am talking about.

Basically all that is frivoulus is crap and we (me included) smear it all over our faces every day. you and who ever else can deny what ever you want but you know that if you have to lie than its a bigger problems than those who can address it.

My weaknesses are for me to know, my message is not rude it is awarness. I would appreciate if you looked at it like that.

You sound like a broken record. I don't know how many times I have heard the conformist arguements but it's a load of ****, as like Boo Boo just said, you'll be conforming in someway no matter how hard you try. Just because I wear designer clothes doesn't mean I'm some clone who is following every word the magazines tell me about what to wear. I wear these clothes to express my individuality because most of the clothes I own are one of a kind. I have my own style, my own opinions about what things I like to wear.

If you are upset about "frivoulus crap" being spread on your face every day, turn off the damn TV. Get a life, get some hobbies and stop caring. Because the more you care the more the so called media have hooked you in.

darkcornerinthecloset · 04-18-2009, 07:56 PM

do you guys actually care if TV brainwashes or do you just want to argue and try to insult peoples intelligence by your own "superiority" its an opinion, dammit try to change their opinion if you want but its not fact so it cant be wrong

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-18-2009, 08:21 PM

I think most people are wanting for him to answer a straight question instead of bitching , whining & changing the subject all the time.

Personally I gave up 50,000 pages ago.

Yukon Cornelius · 04-18-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I think most people are wanting for him to answer a straight question instead of bitching , whining & changing the subject all the time.

Personally I gave up 50,000 pages ago.

With all do respect urban why should I have to answer ****, I asked you (generally speaking) for your opinion.

You are the one who still needs to explain to me how its doesn't.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-18-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

You are the one who still needs to explain to me how its doesn't.

No I don't

You started the thread explaining it happens.

The burden of proof is on you

Yukon Cornelius · 04-18-2009, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

No I don't

You started the thread explaining it happens.

The burden of proof is on you

Is the T.V. a brainwash device or are people just paranoid?

Maybe I forgot to put a Question mark for you. Please forgive me.

Yukon Cornelius · 04-18-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

I ask you this because I want to know. *paranoid

this is the first post urban..

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-18-2009, 08:42 PM

When it became apparent that most people thought it was a load of rubbish you suddenly started taking the opposite viewpoint. When asked to clarify you didn't and repeatedly dodged the issue & changed the subject.
It should be obvious to anyone you already had your opinion when you started the thread even though you didn't say so at the time , thats why you have spent pages & pages arguing with people who think the whole concept is ridiculous. yes?
Which is why I say the burden of proof is on you to come up with a convincing argument as after all you are the thread starter here.

Yukon Cornelius · 04-18-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

When it became apparent that most people thought it was a load of rubbish you suddenly started taking the opposite viewpoint. When asked to clarify you didn't and repeatedly dodged the issue & changed the subject.
It should be obvious to anyone you already had your opinion when you started the thread even though you didn't say so at the time , thats why you have spent pages & pages arguing with people who think the whole concept is ridiculous. yes?
Which is why I say the burden of proof is on you to come up with a convincing argument as after all you are the thread starter here.

Whats the issue Urban?

04-18-2009, 07:56 PM	#143 (permalink)
darkcornerinthecloset Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 160	do you guys actually care if TV brainwashes or do you just want to argue and try to insult peoples intelligence by your own "superiority" its an opinion, dammit try to change their opinion if you want but its not fact so it cant be wrong __________________ If you board the wrong train, it is no use running along the corridor in the other direction.

04-18-2009, 08:21 PM	#144 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I think most people are wanting for him to answer a straight question instead of bitching , whining & changing the subject all the time. Personally I gave up 50,000 pages ago. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

04-18-2009, 08:42 PM	#149 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	When it became apparent that most people thought it was a load of rubbish you suddenly started taking the opposite viewpoint. When asked to clarify you didn't and repeatedly dodged the issue & changed the subject. It should be obvious to anyone you already had your opinion when you started the thread even though you didn't say so at the time , thats why you have spent pages & pages arguing with people who think the whole concept is ridiculous. yes? Which is why I say the burden of proof is on you to come up with a convincing argument as after all you are the thread starter here. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.