Dirty

I'll clarify a little on my stance and say that I think both ways of discipline can work, and obviously both have. Like I said, I will spank my children to teach them things - it's for their own good. I think yelling in a kids face or being a loud and angry parents is worse than giving your child a smack on their ass.

I think someone brought up the issue of when to stop the physical discipline (maybe not, thought i remembered reading that last night). But I don't think that's real clear cut, I'd just say that as cognitive functions gradually increase, spanking and stuff should decrease. If a kid knows they did something wrong, apologizes, and feel sincerely bad about it - not just bad about getting caught, then i don't think spankings are really going to do much.