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I'd take the X-box away thus avioding the temptation and the need to hit a child.
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Then how are you going to stop the crying fit that ensues.
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A never suggested a timeout either, as for transition to adulthood, 98% of incarsarated inmates here in Michigan witnessed or were victims of physical abuse and\or discipline as children. Again, I'll take away the X-box teach the child the difference between a right and privilege and not hit them.
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Again, we are not advocating any sort of domestic violence here, this statistic holds little to no relevance.
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You'll make an excellent parent.
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Sarcasm or not, I firmly agree with you one this.
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I firmly believe the same thing could have been accomplished without hitting you, I'd be embarrassed if my wife had done that to one of our children.
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Well my mom didn't have a husband so thats not an issue, if she hadn't smacked the **** out of me that day, I would have shaken it off like the countless other punishments I had received. Notice I can't recall the dates of any of these. This was my first encounter with physical discipline, mind you. I was a problem child of alternative punishment for years before, and I remind myself daily of how wrong it was to subject my mother to that sort of brattish behavior. I'm thankful for who I am, and feel that I'm a better person because of the way I was brought up. You can throw all the stats you want at this issue, but I'm telling you first hand... it worked for me.
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1. No you can't unless you mean
2. Kids who are physically disciplined are 12 times as likely to fight in school (CED Report 2008)
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You mean stand up for themselves to kids that pick on them? Good, I don't want my kid going through that crap. I hope they stand up for themselves, so long as they aren't instigating the fights and it isn't terribly re-occuring.
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I made that distinction in my last post and several times earlier in the thread when I noted I was physically disciplined throughout my childhood as well.
It's wrong, plain and simple, abuse or not, it's not essential and should not be an option for a rational parent.
Would you let another adult strike your child?
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Stranger, teacher, preacher, neighbor, creepy guy at the grocery store? NO.
Aunts, Uncles, Grandparents, and other close family. Yes, if necessary.
In the end, you've obviously established your ways of parenting and perhaps they have yielded fine results for you. That's the beauty of parenting, you get to instill whatever you choose in your child, and it's very important to set a good example. Hopefully, physical discipline would never be necessary and in a perfect world, it wouldn't be. But it my kid ever does something over and over again and hasn't responded to alternative punishment. Then physical means of correction will be instituted.