Chula Vista

Sometimes the government has to step in for the good of the whole. Do you mind that the government mandates that you wear a seat belt? Or that people can't drink alcohol until the age of 21? Vaccines are no different really.

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DwnWthVwls

Yes, I do actually. It's my body and they don't have the right to tell me what I can do with it, regardless if my actions are harmful to myself.. I question their motives.

If they are so concerned why is smoking legal? They pick and choose, maybe if they showed some consistency I'd be more open to it.

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Frownland

The tobacco lobby, duh. That doesn't negate every single government regulation though.

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DwnWthVwls

That was rhetorical dummy.

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Frownland

Someone not in a seatbelt could fly around the inside or outside of a car and kill other people with their flailing body so no, that one's not just down to you either.

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Chula Vista

As to smoking, what Frowny said.

The point you're missing is that it's not all about you. It's about everyone. Seat belts are required because they can save lives or at least reduce personal injuries. That cuts down on the cost of health insurance and/or reduces the amount of pain and suffering that others can go through.

Kids can't drink before they are 21 because it's been decided that they are not responsible enough yet - and could harm themselves or others. Again, there are costs associated that would affect everyone.

And you know why vaccines are mandated.

So the motive is to protect you, protect others, and keep the associated health care and insurance costs down which aids everyone.

You shouldn't read slippery slope conspiracy theories into it. Remember the government has been mandated things to individuals since it was formed back in 1789.

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The Batlord

The exact same argument could be made for banning smoking. Seatbelt laws are bull****.

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The Batlord

1. Like Frown said, we don't have a vaccine for AIDS, so it's a moot point.

2. AIDS has certainly managed to spread to a terrifying degree, but never to the extent that diseases that didn't require sexual transmission, such as smallpox and malaria did in the past.

3. If there was a vaccine but still no cure for AIDS then I'd want to chuck anyone under a bus who didn't take it or give it to their children.

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Frownland

Your strawman just burned down, Ki.

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Chula Vista

Why did I read that as "I'd want to **** anyone under a bus...."

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on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”