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Acceptable | 50 | 56.82% | |
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02-02-2011, 07:58 AM | #461 (permalink) |
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02-02-2011, 08:07 AM | #462 (permalink) |
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I'll clarify a little on my stance and say that I think both ways of discipline can work, and obviously both have. Like I said, I will spank my children to teach them things - it's for their own good. I think yelling in a kids face or being a loud and angry parents is worse than giving your child a smack on their ass. I think someone brought up the issue of when to stop the physical discipline (maybe not, thought i remembered reading that last night). But I don't think that's real clear cut, I'd just say that as cognitive functions gradually increase, spanking and stuff should decrease. If a kid knows they did something wrong, apologizes, and feel sincerely bad about it - not just bad about getting caught, then i don't think spankings are really going to do much. |
02-02-2011, 10:30 AM | #463 (permalink) |
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People who are pro corporal punishment need to wake up, I think. Even if they think they are doing it right and are only for it under the right circumstance etc, their voiced opinion and support for corporal punishment is also enabling those who do it too much and those who abuse children. As an example, maybe you'd like to legalize a drug because you like to take it a couple of times a year. But that legalization also goes for the guy who takes that drug every day.
My conviction that corporal punishment has general negative long-term effects on the children punished and on society is not mere baseless assumption or opinion. It is based on a wealth of scientific studies. Here are some findings and conclusions : Corporal punishment is associated with the subsequent aggresion of children and there is recent evidence that later in life this aggression includes physical assaults on spouses. Conclusion : Corporal punishment in general has negative (long term) effects on children and society as a whole. Really, we should be past that debate by now. Those who support corporal punishment must do so despite the conclusions of studies like those referenced above and the wealth of other studies like them. They can continue to argue that corporal punishment is harmless, just like they can argue that evolution does not happen, but in that case; unless it's just a mere display of complete ignorance on the subject matter, they have a lot to prove and should find a wealth of evidence to support their position.
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02-02-2011, 10:32 AM | #464 (permalink) |
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In 200 years time we'll probably be amazed at how we treated our kids, just like we are amazed about how we treated witches 200 years ago and women 100 years ago.
I hope we can somehow get in touch with eachother then .
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02-02-2011, 10:34 AM | #465 (permalink) |
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But by that time people will probably be doing something else that might be deemed controversial, or abusive, or discriminatory, etc. Society will never be perfect. It's a vicious circle.
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02-02-2011, 10:40 AM | #466 (permalink) | |
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02-02-2011, 10:46 AM | #467 (permalink) |
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I'm not sure I like the idea of 'corporal punishment' being lumped into one definition.
Like I said previously in the thread I can count on one hand the number of times I was smacked as a kid and I was always made aware of why I got them. So am I being defined in the same way as someone who was hit everyday for the smallest reason? Are those 4 or 5 smackings going to make me a violent drunk later in life? That's why I'm always dubious of studies like these.
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If you want to take a stance on a law, for example one which prohibits corporal punishment, you should take a stance based on the general effect that law will have on society.
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02-02-2011, 11:36 AM | #469 (permalink) |
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Absolutely. It's not so much as a circle. I guess we will just change till one day the earth goes boom.
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02-02-2011, 12:07 PM | #470 (permalink) | |
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Getting drunk and beating a kid every single day because they annoy you is completely different from smacking a child once in a blue moon because they've been doing something extremely awful repeatedly and aren't responding to any other kind of discipline. Giving a child a 'smack' usually means something you do very rarely as a last resort and it tends to be a tiny fraction of your strength on an area where they're least sensitive (E.G you don't throw a right hook full force at their throat). I'd be surprised to see how many of the people in this thread have kids or have had to look after kids at any point of their life. It seems like the people against the smacking are blowing it out of proportion, looking at some of the posts in here you would think they've mistaken 'discipline' for the word 'disembowelment'. |
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