Physical discipline against children .. okay or not?

Astronomer · 09-04-2009, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Classof75

So when you train a dog on a leash, you know how to make them heel without pulling on it? Just using a "stern voice"? I understand what you were saying in your post, but "discipline" (the kind I was explaining) does not mean punishment. Animals get physical with each other to communicate, so I have no problem prodding them if they are somewhere they should not be. My dad taught their cat not to jump up on their dining room table. Only took one lesson (a good swipe).

Yeah, I can understand this completely.

I was just disagreeing with you believing that they don't have feelings, and simply stating that in MANY, but not all cases, physical discipline can even be avoided with animals.

I was also disagreeing with the fact that you seemed to think that herding sheep and cows is discipline.

FETCHER. · 09-04-2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Classof75

Never have had to resort to that with my kid. She is very intelligent and well behaved. She will be a sophomore in high school this year.

i was hit as a kid not majorly hit like beaten, just smacked if i done something wrong or was mojorly cheeky, and as i was (and still am) a cheeky wee shit, i was always well behaved in school & done well in classes. but when i got home i would basically verbally abuse my family thinking i was funny & smart when i wasnt, so i was smacked. i also ruined my family car once, i actually wasnt punished, surprisingly. i expected it but nothing happend. maybe cos i knew what i had done wrong, whereas with my cheek i didnt know what i was doing wrong basically.

thats what i think anyways.
i dont think its a big deal, everyones sayn people turn out violent. i was smacked im not violent, god some of my pals call me the BFG. as my height and friendly nature. id be the last person to resort to violence, maybe thats just me. and sheer luck im not violent, but i dont think smacking kids is a big deal to be honest.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-04-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kayleigh.

thats what i think anyways.
i dont think its a big deal, everyones sayn people turn out violent. i was smacked im not violent, god some of my pals call me the BFG. as my height and friendly nature. id be the last person to resort to violence, maybe thats just me. and sheer luck im not violent, but i dont think smacking kids is a big deal to be honest.

I'm the same

God help us if me & you ever disagree on anything.
According to the know it alls in this thread the only way we've been taught to be able to solve it is by knocking seven bells of shit out of each other.

FETCHER. · 09-04-2009, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I'm the same

God help us if me & you ever disagree on anything.
According to the know it alls in this thread the only way we've been taught to be able to solve it is by knocking seven bells of shit out of each other.

would be a bitch fight if anything

, i have been in one fight in my life. it was the most unpleasant experience i have been through, and surprise, it WASNT instigated by me. it was the other girl

.

i dont believe these experiements that scientist have carried out.
its aww shite.

Classof75 · 09-04-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kayleigh.

i was hit as a kid not majorly hit like beaten, just smacked if i done something wrong or was mojorly cheeky, and as i was (and still am) a cheeky wee shit, i was always well behaved in school & done well in classes. but when i got home i would basically verbally abuse my family thinking i was funny & smart when i wasnt, so i was smacked. i also ruined my family car once, i actually wasnt punished, surprisingly. i expected it but nothing happend. maybe cos i knew what i had done wrong, whereas with my cheek i didnt know what i was doing wrong basically.

thats what i think anyways.
i dont think its a big deal, everyones sayn people turn out violent. i was smacked im not violent, god some of my pals call me the BFG. as my height and friendly nature. id be the last person to resort to violence, maybe thats just me. and sheer luck im not violent, but i dont think smacking kids is a big deal to be honest.

Hey, I have some Scots blood in me (Lindsay), so I know how hard headed we can be! Rock on.

likuidcoka · 09-04-2009, 03:41 PM

sas·sy 1 (ss)
adj. sas·si·er, sas·si·est
1. Rude and disrespectful; impudent.
2. Lively and spirited; jaunty.

IT can mean either/or

I dont like to judge people and how they raise and or discipline their children.
Everyone has their own thing, I mean theres got to be a balance.
Discipline is not the same thing as abuse, cmon now people.
LIke i said, OPen a big ol can of whoop ass on that ass!
If they test me, they gonna get it.

Guybrush · 09-05-2009, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by likuidcoka

sas·sy 1 (ss)
adj. sas·si·er, sas·si·est
1. Rude and disrespectful; impudent.
2. Lively and spirited; jaunty.

IT can mean either/or

Here's one of Urban Dictionary's definitions!

sassy
An adjective, typically used to describe a playful, flirty, saucy woman, particularly in reference to her verbal remarks. Occasionally, women will be sassy in order to get a spanking for causing trouble. The best way to tell is if her eyes are bright with mischief.
His sassy girlfriend grinned at him after she teased him, so he place a firm slap on her behind!

PinkCigarette · 10-03-2009, 12:19 AM

I accept it to a degree.

If a kid is getting the **** kicked out of them, no, that's wrong.

As a kid, I got the belt so that taught me to behave because I didn't want it. I never ended up with bruises or anything like that but my dad's leather belt stung like a b!tch. I'd be rubbing my ass for hours.

It made me one hell of a better person. Nowadays, it seems like kids piss around because they can't really get punished. If a parent were to grab a belt like the old days, all a kid now has to do is call the cops and the parent gets the **** end of the stick. What else can you do? Send the kid to their room where their video games and computer are? Ridiculous.

Guybrush · 10-03-2009, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PinkCigarette

It made me one hell of a better person. Nowadays, it seems like kids piss around because they can't really get punished. If a parent were to grab a belt like the old days, all a kid now has to do is call the cops and the parent gets the **** end of the stick. What else can you do? Send the kid to their room where their video games and computer are? Ridiculous.

Have you honestly ever seen any evidence that corporal punishment makes for comparatively nicer kids than those who are not punished physically? You can't really refer to yourself as an example, a point which has been driven home X times in this thread already.

The funny thing about your post and others who wrote similar ones like it is you explain why you're for corporal punishment. You write that you simply can't see an alternative. If you don't know anything else, what other option is there?

Obviously the only alternative is not to reward your kid with video games and computers. Saying that it is is like flaunting your ignorance.

PinkCigarette · 10-03-2009, 03:29 AM

haha, wow, so I can't buy my kid any video games because he might be punished and have to go to his room one day? That's what it sounds like you are saying.

I NEVER stated that every kid who gets punished with a belt (etc.) comes out a good kid. It works for some and not for others. It never worked for my brother but most of that is my mom's fault because when my parents divorced, he went to live with her and she babied him so he grew up a bit arrogant. He got away with everything because she was too soft to punish him in any way so he knew when he did something wrong, he could still go out with his friends and have a good time. He wasn't like that when my parents were together because my dad punished us with the belt.

I used myself as just as an example of how I grew up and how it made me turn out. I never once said that it works for everyone. I was just saying that it worked for me.

Don't put words in my mouth, please.

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10-03-2009, 12:19 AM	#358 (permalink)
PinkCigarette Chase for 28 Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 349	I accept it to a degree. If a kid is getting the ** kicked out of them, no, that's wrong. As a kid, I got the belt so that taught me to behave because I didn't want it. I never ended up with bruises or anything like that but my dad's leather belt stung like a b!tch. I'd be rubbing my ass for hours. It made me one hell of a better person. Nowadays, it seems like kids piss around because they can't really get punished. If a parent were to grab a belt like the old days, all a kid now has to do is call the cops and the parent gets the ** end of the stick. What else can you do? Send the kid to their room where their video games and computer are? Ridiculous. __________________

10-03-2009, 03:29 AM	#360 (permalink)
PinkCigarette Chase for 28 Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 349	haha, wow, so I can't buy my kid any video games because he might be punished and have to go to his room one day? That's what it sounds like you are saying. I NEVER stated that every kid who gets punished with a belt (etc.) comes out a good kid. It works for some and not for others. It never worked for my brother but most of that is my mom's fault because when my parents divorced, he went to live with her and she babied him so he grew up a bit arrogant. He got away with everything because she was too soft to punish him in any way so he knew when he did something wrong, he could still go out with his friends and have a good time. He wasn't like that when my parents were together because my dad punished us with the belt. I used myself as just as an example of how I grew up and how it made me turn out. I never once said that it works for everyone. I was just saying that it worked for me. Don't put words in my mouth, please. __________________

09-04-2009, 03:41 PM	#356 (permalink)
likuidcoka MOuthWIdeSHut Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hippocampus Posts: 85	sas·sy 1 (ss) adj. sas·si·er, sas·si·est 1. Rude and disrespectful; impudent. 2. Lively and spirited; jaunty. IT can mean either/or I dont like to judge people and how they raise and or discipline their children. Everyone has their own thing, I mean theres got to be a balance. Discipline is not the same thing as abuse, cmon now people. LIke i said, OPen a big ol can of whoop ass on that ass! If they test me, they gonna get it.