Physical discipline against children .. okay or not?

adidasss · 06-09-2009, 04:19 AM

Astronomer · 06-11-2009, 07:25 PM

I can't believe more people think it is acceptable than unacceptable! I think it's wrong and completely out of order. As a primary school teacher I also know that physical discipline is not only detrimental to the child's development but it doesn't even work as well as other forms of discipline.

clarksided · 06-11-2009, 11:42 PM

I won't hit my kids but I don't think the occasional spanking is going to ruin a kid's life.

Whatsitoosit · 06-12-2009, 10:55 AM

I just beat up my child and gotta say it was amazing!!!

jk, the school teacher has a good point.

Hesher · 06-14-2009, 03:36 AM

Sometimes I see kids that I would love to beat down, but then I realize their parents just totally failed in bringing them up properly. If anyone needs beatings, it's the parents that failed so abjectly in their duty to teach kids not to be *******s. Just look at how Captain Caveman turned out. Poor guy.

...Anyway, corporal punishment of kids I think often worsens their behaviour and can inflict psychological wounds that last far longer than bruises. My parents did perfectly well controlling my behaviour with crippling amounts of guilt tripping.

Once, I drove the car around the block and hit the tire on the curb, puncturing it and causing a flat. My dad didn't get angry at all, he just handed me the jack, the replacement tire and the wrench and told me it had better be finished by the next day. I think that might be the best form of punishment; I had to learn from my mistake by rectifying it.

Miltamec Soundsquinaez · 06-20-2009, 08:52 PM

I think a child's intuition is much stronger than the average adult's. When an adult gets mad at a child, the premium reaction, I think everyone would agree, would be to practice patience and tolerance, for even though the child might be extremely annoying, we know it is not meant to harm us.

With that said, adults don't always react in this manner; maybe they have a lot of stress from work or what have you. The adult becomes angry and resorts to spanking the child. It's just not the strongest reaction a person can have, that doesn't mean it's bad. It would be better for that annoyed adult, I think to take out their anger by spanking the child (it's really all they know how to do) than to harbor anger or a grudge against the child, and let it explode out later in a much worse way. Back to my original point, when an adult gets out their belt, I think the child understands on a very deep level, that the adult is taking the weaker of those 2 reactions, but it's all they really know how to do. My 2 cents.

Arya Stark · 06-27-2009, 09:51 PM

Children these days have lost all sorts of manners because of the discipline that is lacking.

I'm not sure if physical discipline is the best, but I'm pretty sure allowing your children be to be as disrespectful as possible to everyone around them is much worse. >.>

Miltamec Soundsquinaez · 07-12-2009, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dollie

i resent parents that don't teach their kids right from wrong. mostly the ones ive babysat for or encountered in stores. i am sooooo glad my parents taught me the meaning of NO. how else could i have developed a good sense of boundaries if my parents let me run all over them?

You're saying you need to say NO in the form of physical punishment?

There's an even better way, it's called assertiveness.

You develop enough of a trust and kinship with your kid, that they probably won't even have to or want to ask for some new gift, and if the parent says NO, the kid understands, and drops it. You know why? Because the parent has a good sense of boundaries.

That's why whenever you see some girl on Maury who snuck out at night and had sex with 13 neighbors at once, the mom is usually to blame, because she hasn't set well defined boundaries for herself, the kid picks up on that and has to seek attention and love somewhere else.

Classof75 · 07-28-2009, 08:03 AM

I have a 14 year old daughter who is very well behaved, and has good manners. This did not "just happen", or as parents, we were "lucky". The key is to make sure as a parent, from day one, when you see something that is "not o.k.", you have your child understand that it is not o.k. When you say no, it really means no, not maybe, not "if you whine enough I will change my mind". Once your child thinks you don't mean what you say, you have basically lost them. I have seen this happen. You don't need to be physical with your kid, you just have to make sure they know you mean what you say. Period.

Astronomer · 07-28-2009, 08:51 AM

It really worries me that "Acceptable" is winning.

View Poll Results: Physical punishment aganist children. Acceptable or Unacceptable?
Acceptable	50	56.82%
Unacceptable	38	43.18%
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06-09-2009, 04:19 AM	#261 (permalink)
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06-11-2009, 11:42 PM	#263 (permalink)
clarksided Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 77	I won't hit my kids but I don't think the occasional spanking is going to ruin a kid's life. __________________ http://www.last.fm/user/Folkwire http://rateyourmusic.com/~Folkwire

06-12-2009, 10:55 AM	#264 (permalink)
Whatsitoosit Bringer of Carrots Join Date: May 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 648	I just beat up my child and gotta say it was amazing!!! jk, the school teacher has a good point. __________________ "It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face."

06-20-2009, 08:52 PM	#266 (permalink)
Miltamec Soundsquinaez Aural melody discerner Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in a truck down by the interstate Posts: 347	I think a child's intuition is much stronger than the average adult's. When an adult gets mad at a child, the premium reaction, I think everyone would agree, would be to practice patience and tolerance, for even though the child might be extremely annoying, we know it is not meant to harm us. With that said, adults don't always react in this manner; maybe they have a lot of stress from work or what have you. The adult becomes angry and resorts to spanking the child. It's just not the strongest reaction a person can have, that doesn't mean it's bad. It would be better for that annoyed adult, I think to take out their anger by spanking the child (it's really all they know how to do) than to harbor anger or a grudge against the child, and let it explode out later in a much worse way. Back to my original point, when an adult gets out their belt, I think the child understands on a very deep level, that the adult is taking the weaker of those 2 reactions, but it's all they really know how to do. My 2 cents. __________________ Hello, my name is Luka. I live on the 2nd floor.

06-11-2009, 07:25 PM	#262 (permalink)
Astronomer we are stardust Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,894	I can't believe more people think it is acceptable than unacceptable! I think it's wrong and completely out of order. As a primary school teacher I also know that physical discipline is not only detrimental to the child's development but it doesn't even work as well as other forms of discipline.

06-14-2009, 03:36 AM	#265 (permalink)
Hesher Palm Muted Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 168	Sometimes I see kids that I would love to beat down, but then I realize their parents just totally failed in bringing them up properly. If anyone needs beatings, it's the parents that failed so abjectly in their duty to teach kids not to be *******s. Just look at how Captain Caveman turned out. Poor guy. ...Anyway, corporal punishment of kids I think often worsens their behaviour and can inflict psychological wounds that last far longer than bruises. My parents did perfectly well controlling my behaviour with crippling amounts of guilt tripping. Once, I drove the car around the block and hit the tire on the curb, puncturing it and causing a flat. My dad didn't get angry at all, he just handed me the jack, the replacement tire and the wrench and told me it had better be finished by the next day. I think that might be the best form of punishment; I had to learn from my mistake by rectifying it.

07-28-2009, 08:03 AM	#269 (permalink)
Classof75 Music Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 127	I have a 14 year old daughter who is very well behaved, and has good manners. This did not "just happen", or as parents, we were "lucky". The key is to make sure as a parent, from day one, when you see something that is "not o.k.", you have your child understand that it is not o.k. When you say no, it really means no, not maybe, not "if you whine enough I will change my mind". Once your child thinks you don't mean what you say, you have basically lost them. I have seen this happen. You don't need to be physical with your kid, you just have to make sure they know you mean what you say. Period.

07-28-2009, 08:51 AM	#270 (permalink)
Astronomer we are stardust Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,894	It really worries me that "Acceptable" is winning. __________________