Prop 8 Proceedings (country, rock, effect, member, quote)

joyboyo53 · 03-12-2009, 12:53 PM

how ass backward is it that the same day people voted for an increase in animal rights (prop2), they took away human rights?

WWWP · 03-12-2009, 01:38 PM

I kind of get the impression that a lot of people didn't even know what prop 8 was about. Either they hear "gay rights" and automatically build a homophobic wall around themselves or they can't be bothered to read and/or get informed. For instance, when I was picketing around election time I was just holding a No on 8 sign and some old lady yelled from her car window "why do you want to kill babies?" It's like, what the fuck?

adidasss · 03-12-2009, 01:53 PM

Nothing happens overnight. It was only 5 years ago that the anti-sodomy statues were declared unconstitutional.

ProggyMan · 03-12-2009, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jgd85

how ass backward is it that the same day people voted for an increase in animal rights (prop2), they took away human rights?

Prop 2 was terrible, in this economy?

sleepy jack · 03-15-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pobodys_Nerfect

This comic pretty much sums up my opinion on people... I could not believe that on the same day a black man was elected president people people's right to marry the same sex was outed it really is painful. However I do commend you Proggyman for standing up for what you believe is right.

It's kind of sociologically ignorant to look at things that way. The Afro-American community of course pulled out big numbers for Obama, but minorities have are typically more discriminatory, particularly the Afro-American community. This all goes back to education though, the higher your education the more socially liberal you are and less bigoted. This goes back to the fact that schools in areas like Compton or Oakland aren't good schools. The Teachers Union, and I'm typically very for unions, is one of the worst things that's ever happened with education. This union, sort of like the Catholic church when it discovers one of their priests guilty of touching little boys, reorganizes their teachers based on how well they do. For instance, if you have a bad teacher teaching at a well-funded predominately White school in say...Connecticut, than they shift them around to perhaps a more poor southern, and most likely, predominately black school, and they teach poorly there and most likely the kids can't pull the grade so test standards are lowered to make money (this is No Child Left Behind in action) but the problem is the tests aren't good enough to get into college. Racism is still a problem, particularly in regards to our messed up education system, it hasn't been solved (I know no one has said this) because there's a black president. I mean you look at the shit going on in America still, like cancer alley in Louisiana, and it makes you realize how corrupt the system is.

An unaddressed problem with this propositions though, is their obtuse and deliberately syntax. In Florida for instance, where they got rid of Civil Unions, my friend had no idea what the proposition was talking about (in the end he just didn't vote.) There's also another issue which is how long some of these ballots get.

adidasss · 03-15-2009, 04:44 PM

http://election.dos.state.fl.us/init...df/41550-1.pdf

Unless your friends is significantly intellectually challenged, I think that should read pretty clearly.

Meph1986 · 03-15-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack

An unaddressed problem with this propositions though, is their obtuse and deliberately syntax. In Florida for instance, where they got rid of Civil Unions, my friend had no idea what the proposition was talking about (in the end he just didn't vote.) There's also another issue which is how long some of these ballots get.

I'm still upset at the fact that it needed 60% to pass and it did.

adidasss · 03-15-2009, 05:44 PM

Florida is a pretty backward state. One of only three U.S. states that specifically prohibits homosexuals from adopting.

~~qixx~~ · 03-15-2009, 06:59 PM

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Florida is a pretty backward state. One of only three U.S. states that specifically prohibits homosexuals from adopting.

the voting for that was not actually along homo/heterosexual lines. It is possible to support limiting adoption to married couples even though you are fighting for same-sex marriage rights.

personally i don't feel marriage should be a right to anyone. i feel marriage is and should be a privilege and that one should have to pass a test before qualifying to get married. and like with 3 strikes laws 3 divorces and you don't qualify either.

adidasss · 03-15-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by qixx

the voting for that was not actually along homo/heterosexual lines. It is possible to support limiting adoption to married couples even though you are fighting for same-sex marriage rights.

It wasn't? Because other states have statutes that limit adoption to married couples while the Florida one specifically bans homosexuals from adopting.

03-12-2009, 01:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
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03-15-2009, 04:44 PM	#16 (permalink)
adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	http://election.dos.state.fl.us/init...df/41550-1.pdf Unless your friends is significantly intellectually challenged, I think that should read pretty clearly. __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

03-15-2009, 05:44 PM	#18 (permalink)
adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	Florida is a pretty backward state. One of only three U.S. states that specifically prohibits homosexuals from adopting. __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

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