boo boo

When did Colbert ever imply that the American people are stupid?

He pokes fun of American culture and politics, but that's what he does, I don't see how he insulted the American people. He's a comedian.

I still disagree with you, the news networks can still carry some impact on how society reacts to things, the whole swine flu scare is a perfect exampe.

__________________
It's only knock n' knowall, but I like it

http://www.last.fm/user/kingboobs

TheBig3

I just assume we're coming from different places because none of this has an impact here worth mentioning.

I would ask Boo Boo to explain how MSNBC are just as bad as Fox because you glazed over the point with out any explination.

__________________
I've moved to a new address

Son of JayJamJah

I have no problem with your stance, I find it perfectly reasonable. In regards to Colbert, O'Reilly, Olberman. I don't think any of them think that Americans are stupid, I just think they all feel they are a lot smarter then the American people.

I would challenge you on something though Swine Flu, to me the media's reaction to it is considerably more fervent the society. A few school closings sure, but that's more a fear of potential litigation then it is Swine Flu I think.

With the expansion of internet media, people, especially those 45 and under who are comfortable with the Internet and media technology in general can now draw information from such a myriad of sources as to form their own relatively educated opinion on just about any issue they have enough passion or motivation to ever do anything about.

In a roundabout way, all I am saying is FOXNEWS and the like are more a symptom of the culture's evolution (or devolution) then is a cause of it. Society will change and evolve around it, not through it.

__________________
Me, Myself and I United as One

If you're posting in the music forums make sure to be thoughtful and expressive, if you're posting in the lounge ask yourself "is this something that adds to the conversation?" It's important to remember that a lot of people use each thread. You're probably not as funny or clever as you think, I know I'm not.

My Van Morrison Discography Thread

Trauma

Just to make this clear, Steven Colbert acts like an unintelligent and uninformed radical conservatives, he isn't really.
There's a video of him speaking at the White House during a dinner in 2006: hilarious.
Serious tension between him and the President's table.

__________________
A mi no me importa nada
Para mi la vida es un sueño

Son of JayJamJah

I think most of us have caught on to the joke.

__________________
Me, Myself and I United as One

If you're posting in the music forums make sure to be thoughtful and expressive, if you're posting in the lounge ask yourself "is this something that adds to the conversation?" It's important to remember that a lot of people use each thread. You're probably not as funny or clever as you think, I know I'm not.

My Van Morrison Discography Thread

Trauma

Have you caught on to the joke?
Why are you relating him to O'Reilly?

If you're saying that Colbert thinks Americans are stupid then you're wrong because one of the main functions of his show is to bring up political issues in a humorous light and essentially have the audience laugh at his incorrectness and figure out the situations for themselves.

__________________
A mi no me importa nada
Para mi la vida es un sueño

Son of JayJamJah

O'Reilly and Colbert are very similar; they both relay a subjective viewpoint in a manner that specifically targets their networks core demographic. They are both smart, but think they are smarter then they are. Watch their "interviews" with each other neither would let their guard down and break character.

Colbert has a liberal slant

O'Reilly has a conservative slant.

In this regard they are different, otherwise they report on the same issues and Colbert's show is a satire of "The Factor"

__________________
Me, Myself and I United as One

If you're posting in the music forums make sure to be thoughtful and expressive, if you're posting in the lounge ask yourself "is this something that adds to the conversation?" It's important to remember that a lot of people use each thread. You're probably not as funny or clever as you think, I know I'm not.

My Van Morrison Discography Thread

Trauma

Colbert probably didn't let his character down because he's a comedian; it's his facade.
He's mocking O'Reilly, the joke is that his opinions are not real like O'Reilly's; they're jokes.
The audience has to determine what his real views are.
Outside of the facade he isn't pretending to know everything like O'Reilly.

I guess not everyone gets the joke...

__________________
A mi no me importa nada
Para mi la vida es un sueño

TheBig3

JJJ, you seem a little burned by the liberals supposed elitism. Assuming thats true, can you tell me when and where it happened?

These are things I always wanted to ask people, but never knew well enough to ask. Are you lumping anyone on the left together?

As an example, I'd say I'm on the left, but by no means "liberal" (as the other lefties here), but I watched that woman the the Washington Press Dinner act like an ass toward Donald Rumsfeld and I thought, this is why people hate people on the left.

__________________
I've moved to a new address

Son of JayJamJah

First to preface, I fall a bit to the left. I am very socially liberal and economically more conservative. But my major problem is as you noted with elitism.

I am pretty jaded by the whole process Brennan, but especially by the left wing rhetoric in the last decade. When I lived in California (2003-2005) it was the worst, you were excluded from social circles if you did not fall in line with left wing popular thought. I'd say liberal elitism began to get under my skin right around that time. I consistently heard things like "all those morons in the red states", "Bush is the dumbest president ever", "Torture doesn't work and is never okay" and most of all "they just don't get it" (in regards to right wing thinkers)

I am annoyed by people who tell me need welfare because "what else will THEY do"

I remember during Katrina he anti-bush FEMA crowd saying things like "If you get a group of poor black people together in a large building you know rape and violent crime is going to take place"

Specific to the "Lumping together" question: No, I try to let each persons actions speak for themselves. I was in favor of Obama's election and vote Democrat more often then republican (though rarely do I vote either these days) I will say the Hollywood left is unbearable across the board, Sean Penn, George Clooney etc etc etc. I can't stand their inability to look beyond their myopic perspective and see how different Americans and people in general are all across the globe and the fact they have the tallest soapbox to stand upon really irks me.

You're spot on with my main reason for irritation\disdain. The arrogance some of the left shows, like Colbert, John Stewart, Michael Moore, I think undermines their point more often then not.

I could ramble on for hours but in the interest of saving time and better exploring this dialogue I'll await your response and further questions.

__________________
Me, Myself and I United as One

If you're posting in the music forums make sure to be thoughtful and expressive, if you're posting in the lounge ask yourself "is this something that adds to the conversation?" It's important to remember that a lot of people use each thread. You're probably not as funny or clever as you think, I know I'm not.

My Van Morrison Discography Thread