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Old 05-16-2009, 10:52 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Because across all boards, conservative talk radio has pulled the republicans rightward, and thats why their losing.

The dopes who want the fairness doctrine are just as bad the the few remaining republican senators, their playing to an extremist base. Anyone who's good at playing politics knows you want to keep those idiots talking, and keep them pushing independents away.

If anything, the congressional democrats will push it through, and hope to get it by the senate to Obama, he can veto it and look like a moderate. He'll give a big speech on constitutionality, and pick up more republicans than he did last time.

Obama has no reason to push Limbaugh away. You're talking about blue democrats and barry sanders who arne't ever getting tossed out of office, short of a scandal.

The democrats know how to avoid a scandal. Clinton brush offed an attempt to remove him from office. Republicans have message discipline, democrats have topical-agility. I promise you, the fairness doctrine was born in a time of restrictiveness. Following the Reagan revolution, no Dem will support it.

Big government intervention isn't something they care about as much as it seems, especially as to who says what on the radio. Michael Savage and his ilk are allowing thm to pick up more and more states.

I'd put strong money on the republicans voting for the damn thing to shut these morons up.
Maybe it's because I agree with you on so much of this, but you really get politics don't you? Well laid out. I couldn't have (and didn't) say it better myself.
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Old 05-16-2009, 03:12 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Maybe it's because I agree with you on so much of this, but you really get politics don't you? Well laid out. I couldn't have (and didn't) say it better myself.
I spend a lot of my time reading into a lot of this stuff. And I watch Chris Matthew's religiously.

He's opinionated, but you always get a political history lesson when you Watch Hardball. When he references something, I then go look into it.

Like him calling **** Cheney the new Pearl Mesta...who gives a **** about her? But I know who she is now. Its instances like that.

That and I volunteer for two campaigns and and currently applying for three legislative aide positions. Cross your fingers.
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Old 05-17-2009, 01:50 AM   #93 (permalink)
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lol. The Democrats in Congress really haven't talked much about the fairness doctrine. It's largely been a media pushed thing; particularly Rush Limbaugh. I don't think it matters.
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The dopes who want the fairness doctrine are just as bad the the few remaining republican senators, their playing to an extremist base. Anyone who's good at playing politics knows you want to keep those idiots talking, and keep them pushing independents away.

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I think the fairness doctrine is an idea that sounds evil on paper, but is much worse than the alternative.

With media deregulation the way it is, you have a select few media conglomerates. With absolute free reign they can pretty much shove their agenda down your throat without anyone calling them on that particular agenda.

-look on how watergate was treated more than 30 years ago compared to the iraq war 6 years ago. Even the "liberal" media failed to questions obvious falsehoods like hussein being linked to al-queda. He waged an entire war on intelligence that was dubious at the time, not afterwards. In all fairness he bush should have been impeached, had the media been doing their jobs.

...I think the media be increasingly for-profit is just as bad as outright state censorship. Nobody is called on their ****, things don't even have to be newsworthy. You just have 24 hours of opinionated blowhards like bill o'reilly and rush limbaugh, and other marginally left wing(meaning not super-right wing) blowhards.
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While I don't support the fairness doctrine. I still feel like there's something that needs to be done about the corporate stranglehold on the media and the biased reporting that goes along with it.

While the press has it's freedoms, it also has specific duties to the american public, it shouldn't be controlled, but it also shouldn't get away with everything.

And if new organizations were actually held acountable for some things, if there were some kind of fines or punishments for their unfair bullying, hatermongering, hidden agendas, twisted facts and downright lies. I think that's all we need, not some government takeover, just make a basic set of basic rules, much like the FCC regulations, and everytime they break these rules, fine their asses.

If they did that, then that alone would put most FoxNews employees out of business. But it's not about liberals or conservatives or evening the playing field. We just need honest, decent journalism.

"Oh but we have the internet boo"

Trust me, a lot of people are more mistrusting of internet sources than you think, especially older people. Everybody should have acess to the truth, through every media outlet, whichever one they prefer. Not just us elitist little scallywags on the internet.
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Fox News is biased of course. So is every other television news source available. This is news to people? lmao at bitching about bias at FNC and not elsewhere though.
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  • Whoever the older, curley-haired, guy was. The one who insinuated Obama had sex with Chavez.
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Fox News is biased of course. So is every other television news source available. This is news to people? lmao at bitching about bias at FNC and not elsewhere though.
CNN/MSNBC's biases have been discussed but I don't recall either of them ever comparing Bush to Hilter and Stalin.
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CNN/MSNBC's biases have been discussed but I don't recall either of them ever comparing Bush to Hilter and Stalin.
Riiight. News is biased, the sky is blue, and when a stove is turned on it's hot. You learn new things every day in this place.

Here's something funny. Most the people in this thread have been about as biased as the news sources.
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