Human Progress (techno, house, rock, single, American)

ixtlan22 · 02-18-2009, 10:15 AM

"Human Progress"

What does this mean to you? Technology? Progress in science? Cultural revolution? Are we really progressing, or are the things we add to this world burdening it as much as they are enhancing it? Is our ultra rational mentality furthering us or hindering unknown possibilities? What are your thoughts on the matter?

Kamikazi Kat · 02-18-2009, 02:04 PM

I wouldn't say we really 'progressed'. To me, it just seems that everything has changed, except for humans themselves. Almost everything has changed throughout history, but there is one constant: There are good people, and then there are bad people.

Every single advancement we have made has a good and bad side to it. For example, weapons, no matter how advanced or simple, can be used offensively and defensively. Its all up to the person.

The internet makes it easier to communicate and gives people access to a vast amount of information, but that goes for both people with good intentions, and bad ones. Once again, its all up to the individual as to how its used.

Lightabe · 02-19-2009, 04:09 AM

Cultural.

Anyone can make progress in science, but it takes a really special person to make a cultural advance.

garbanzo · 03-02-2009, 01:57 PM

humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years. but during the last 100 years, we have used more non-renewable resources than during the rest of human history. we have driven tens of thousands of species to extinction. we're well on our way to paving the planet.

progress? perhaps. but the question is this - towards what are we progressing?

Yukon Cornelius · 03-02-2009, 03:28 PM

Microwaves rockets space travel computers anything you can think of thats more advanced then this has been created in less then on hundered years. Progression in tech stuff is awesome think about 100 years from now.

anticipation · 03-02-2009, 03:32 PM

we've stopped eating each other, so i'd say that humanity has undergone a regression.

Inuzuka Skysword · 03-02-2009, 03:54 PM

Individual humans have progressed throughout their lives. Humanity in a collective sense does not progress because we realize that there is much more than progressing as a species.

iksosept · 03-02-2009, 04:21 PM

when I thought about progression one year ago, I thought about technology and stuff like that, which develops quite rapidly.
But since then I changed my perspective. Now when I think about progression, I have to remind myself that 30 years are a fart in human history. It would be interesting, whether 1000 years from now humans still exist and how their look on the time around the year 2000 will be like. It probably will be seen as the dawn of media, therefore first global interlacing. I expect our age to go down in history as a big chaotic mess. But I think we live in a time where there's maybe the greatest individuality in human progress. I mean, of course 1000 years ago there was more diversity around the world, but within the different societies there probably wasn't that much diversity. Now we all have our heritage, our traditions, but we get to know all the other traditions from around the world better than ever, and change our personalities by learning from other cultures - those cultures we as individuals choose to be interested in. So I think we live in a time, where we can learn about pretty much everything from around the world for the first time, but not yet live in a time, where one ideology dominates around the world. I'm sure by the year 3000 - if humans haven't killed their own race, or a virus has done so - it will all be a rather homogeneous collective. Maybe the people behind The Matrix weren't so wrong.

7gaugejames · 03-02-2009, 04:59 PM

First of all let me start by saying hello, "manners are the cornerstone of human kindness," my grandmother used to say to me. What is the cornerstone of human progress? Not kindness, not that i'm so sad about that, just making an observation...indulge me for a moment then i'll make my point(promise), K? The cornerstone of human progress is greed, history has bore this baby many, many times, the thirst for financial stabilty for loved ones, the ability to make alot of money, not caring too much who it was really affecting, effecting? To take care of his family? Justified in the American dream, I got mine, if you fail to get yours thats your lookout. I feel as far removed from that sort of notion as (i would like to think..)most of you do. So i say F it, i wanna go off the grid, solar power, hydroponic, wind driven communities who can get along and co-exist for real, maybe... no money, all on barter and trade. I am a carpenter, i understand leaverage, load and force compounded, radius and volume are my friends, i'll need a hoticulturalist, to oversee the green houses, and livestock families who will live very high on the hog, solar power conversion and wind mill operations need to be filled.... we'll need roots and tubars, fruit and grain, and so much more. I'd give my life to that, to serve eachother, to depend on eachother. I wonder if we all posted our talents/skills in an e-commune if we would survive a harsh winter, or drought. Because that's whats on the menu, un-certain weather and no government thought up infrastructure they say we have to have, to help get through, what if it got dark, we'll need some diesel specialists to run the generators, we'll need corn oil to feed the generators... we'll need security to gaurd the corn oil....man i can see where this is goin'...Human progress kicks in and all of a sudden Bblamo#$%&#$ i think i've made absolutely no point whatsoever... i guess i'm just another guy who doesn't keep his word. Oh well, let me finish with, "Goodbye." Manners, manners.

Double X · 03-03-2009, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by iksosept

It would be interesting, whether 1000 years from now humans still exist and how their look on the time around the year 2000 will be like. It probably will be seen as the dawn of media, therefore first global interlacing. I expect our age to go down in history as a big chaotic mess.

I always thought the invention of the printing press as a the dawn of media.

I am not sure what humans are supposed to be progressing to in general though...

02-18-2009, 10:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
ixtlan22 Loves Jan Terri Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 184	Human Progress "Human Progress" What does this mean to you? Technology? Progress in science? Cultural revolution? Are we really progressing, or are the things we add to this world burdening it as much as they are enhancing it? Is our ultra rational mentality furthering us or hindering unknown possibilities? What are your thoughts on the matter? __________________ "Peculiar travel suggestions are dancing lessons from God." -Bockonon-

03-02-2009, 03:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
Yukon Cornelius Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 625	Microwaves rockets space travel computers anything you can think of thats more advanced then this has been created in less then on hundered years. Progression in tech stuff is awesome think about 100 years from now. __________________ Attempting to find a cure for Stupid...

03-02-2009, 04:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
7gaugejames Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Imperial Beach Ca. Posts: 101	Human Progress; as follows First of all let me start by saying hello, "manners are the cornerstone of human kindness," my grandmother used to say to me. What is the cornerstone of human progress? Not kindness, not that i'm so sad about that, just making an observation...indulge me for a moment then i'll make my point(promise), K? The cornerstone of human progress is greed, history has bore this baby many, many times, the thirst for financial stabilty for loved ones, the ability to make alot of money, not caring too much who it was really affecting, effecting? To take care of his family? Justified in the American dream, I got mine, if you fail to get yours thats your lookout. I feel as far removed from that sort of notion as (i would like to think..)most of you do. So i say F it, i wanna go off the grid, solar power, hydroponic, wind driven communities who can get along and co-exist for real, maybe... no money, all on barter and trade. I am a carpenter, i understand leaverage, load and force compounded, radius and volume are my friends, i'll need a hoticulturalist, to oversee the green houses, and livestock families who will live very high on the hog, solar power conversion and wind mill operations need to be filled.... we'll need roots and tubars, fruit and grain, and so much more. I'd give my life to that, to serve eachother, to depend on eachother. I wonder if we all posted our talents/skills in an e-commune if we would survive a harsh winter, or drought. Because that's whats on the menu, un-certain weather and no government thought up infrastructure they say we have to have, to help get through, what if it got dark, we'll need some diesel specialists to run the generators, we'll need corn oil to feed the generators... we'll need security to gaurd the corn oil....man i can see where this is goin'...Human progress kicks in and all of a sudden Bblamo#$%&#$ i think i've made absolutely no point whatsoever... i guess i'm just another guy who doesn't keep his word. Oh well, let me finish with, "Goodbye." Manners, manners. __________________ I don't care who you are, Gunslinger, shmunslinger, everyone needs a good purse.

02-18-2009, 02:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kamikazi Kat Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 329	I wouldn't say we really 'progressed'. To me, it just seems that everything has changed, except for humans themselves. Almost everything has changed throughout history, but there is one constant: There are good people, and then there are bad people. Every single advancement we have made has a good and bad side to it. For example, weapons, no matter how advanced or simple, can be used offensively and defensively. Its all up to the person. The internet makes it easier to communicate and gives people access to a vast amount of information, but that goes for both people with good intentions, and bad ones. Once again, its all up to the individual as to how its used.

02-19-2009, 04:09 AM	#3 (permalink)
Lightabe Groupie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 14	Cultural. Anyone can make progress in science, but it takes a really special person to make a cultural advance.

03-02-2009, 01:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
garbanzo Recommended by 4 out of 5 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Budapest Posts: 137	humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years. but during the last 100 years, we have used more non-renewable resources than during the rest of human history. we have driven tens of thousands of species to extinction. we're well on our way to paving the planet. progress? perhaps. but the question is this - towards what are we progressing?

03-02-2009, 03:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
anticipation Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,565	we've stopped eating each other, so i'd say that humanity has undergone a regression.

03-02-2009, 03:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
Inuzuka Skysword Existential Egoist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,468	Individual humans have progressed throughout their lives. Humanity in a collective sense does not progress because we realize that there is much more than progressing as a species.

03-02-2009, 04:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
iksosept Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 104	when I thought about progression one year ago, I thought about technology and stuff like that, which develops quite rapidly. But since then I changed my perspective. Now when I think about progression, I have to remind myself that 30 years are a fart in human history. It would be interesting, whether 1000 years from now humans still exist and how their look on the time around the year 2000 will be like. It probably will be seen as the dawn of media, therefore first global interlacing. I expect our age to go down in history as a big chaotic mess. But I think we live in a time where there's maybe the greatest individuality in human progress. I mean, of course 1000 years ago there was more diversity around the world, but within the different societies there probably wasn't that much diversity. Now we all have our heritage, our traditions, but we get to know all the other traditions from around the world better than ever, and change our personalities by learning from other cultures - those cultures we as individuals choose to be interested in. So I think we live in a time, where we can learn about pretty much everything from around the world for the first time, but not yet live in a time, where one ideology dominates around the world. I'm sure by the year 3000 - if humans haven't killed their own race, or a virus has done so - it will all be a rather homogeneous collective. Maybe the people behind The Matrix weren't so wrong.