Zodiac signs
 

I'm a Sag, and I feel I act like one to the T, and often see people around me acting like their respective signs. I'm not one to believe in this stuff, but some of it is legit for me. Is yours legit for you?

Life Pursuit: To live the good lifeI feel like this is so true, for me, because I believe the best goal in life is to attain happiness and enjoy your ride.

Vibration: Overly expressive - frequent burnoutsI often express myself too much. Very emotional. I "burn out" often, but then I'm back to my hyper and cheery outspoken self.

Sagittarian's Secret Desire: To make a difference in the world Silly but it's something I wish I could do. Definitely why I took such an interest in Model UN and probably why I wish I could be a writer,even though I can't write, or to do something influential, like start a foundation...



Description:
Ruled by the benefic planet Jupiter, Sagittarians possess a natural exuberance, sense of adventure and love of life that makes them one of the most optimistic zodiac signs of all.Very true Like their astrological symbol - the Archer - Sagittarians are renowned for aiming their sights towards whatever it is they find alluring - a love partner, dream job, vacation - and making it their own. They believe that anything is possible - and because of this belief system, Sagittarians are adept at seeking out their very own pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.Also, pretty true

But sometimes trying to tie down these free-spirited individuals is frustrating for those around them. Sagittarians are happiest on the move - exploring new cultures and ideas and many are attracted to occupations related to travel, the media, outdoor work and philosophical pursuits.True, but then why am I going for a career in Engineering? I'm drawn to problem solving In love, their catch-cry is "don't fence me in". But once they find a partner who understands their need to retain their own sense of self and identity, Sagittarians can be the most big-hearted, generous and fun-loving companions of all.Werd

Freedom loving, optimistic and honest, Sagittarians are ruled by Jupiter, the planet of abundance and higher learning. The wisdom of Jupiter imbibes Sagittarians with an inherent need to develop their own unique philosophy of life. IndeedThe Centaur is their astrological symbol, and it gives many insights into the Sagittarian personality. The higher-evolved Sagittarian learns to integrate the two ends of the Centaur (half-human, half-beast) in order for their arrow (another Sagittarian symbol) of higher aspirations to be more on the mark. I feel this is true. I set my goals high but realistically highAlthough they are intellectually and spiritually advanced, Sagittarians are notorious for their lack of tact. YES. THIS IS ME.In relationships they demand independence, but when in love, it can't be denied that they are one of the most big-hearted signs of the zodiac. Also true

Mine is creepily true.

Yours?

(I googled "zodiac signs" and went to first link. Cant post links yet.)

I'm an Aries. I guess it sort of fits me but the fact of the matter is all of the zodiac signs sort of fit everybody.

Im a Leo. 8/21. Recently got 2 tattoos of male and female lion on forearms.

libra on the west side

fire dragon on the east side

Star signs are a bunch of bullshit.

i do believe this thread made it farther than the last one about astrology before it got crapped on hahahaha

I'm taurus and, of course, some of the traditional taurus things apply for me, although probably not more than they do for people in general.

I don't believe in astrology. I once read this interesting article about someone who had made a horoscope, then given it to several people. All the people (hundreds) had the same horoscope and then they asked if they thought the horoscope fit them. A very large majority said that it did and of those, a good chunk claimed that it fit very well - even though it was the same for all. I just wish I knew where I read about this so I could post a source .. Maybe someone who reads this will recognise it and can help out with a link ;)

People are really good at associating. If you have random claims about your future, then some of them are likely to be correct - even if only by chance. Many people mentally latch onto that and think of them as predictions.

I used to read tarot cards which function in a similar way. First, the cards make general claims about the past and it's influence .. Almost always, these are "correct" in that perhaps 80% of the time, the person will know specific events that they can tie the cards to. In the other 20%, they usually would ask me if it could be this or this and I would help them find something (decieve them). Only very rarely would the cards not work .. The cards also do the same for the current situation - a bit more unreliable, but pretty much works the same way - and these two deceptions set people up for believing in the final predictions made by the cards about the future.

It's just humbug. Horoscopes and other ways to read futures is just randomness mixed with quite a bit of deception. Anyone who knows statistics and perhaps a little about human nature should be able to see that.

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BJ, characteristics of the different zodiacs are usually things that are true for a very large amount of people. Lots in your zodiac description applies to me as well, possibly just as well as it applies to yourself. Describing people's personalities with fairly general traits is an art used not only in astrology, but also by people who do cold readings (to gain trust) and other ways of decieving others.

"This says I'm supposed to be down to earth and pragmatic .. Well ... Yes, that is excatly like me!" <- gullible

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Oh I know, it is bull****. I said I'm not one to believe in this stuff, but I always found it very interesting how the Sagittarius seems to fit me very well. But, i agree that horoscopes are general and can apply to anyone. I think its also very interesting how people can find themselves in general description.

Then why post...

To point out the mental inferiority of anyone who does post? ;P

Thats usually my guess.

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I'm a Capricorn. Is it typical for us to think this is all a load of bollocks?

Yeah, its typical...of everyone. But by no means a reason to not discuss it - oh well.

Or maybe it is. Haha.

Cancer represent! I think I kinda fit the profile of a cancer but I couldn't care less.

One really interesting note is that since the stars shift over time and we're much closer to the age of Aquarius than that of Picies (the current sign), everyone is really supposed to be more like the sign that precedes theirs than the one that is being determined by an age that began around 2000 years ago. I don't have any definite beliefs or qualms about Astrology. I think its been pretty bastardized and I believe that there's a lot of shit that's used the idea lazily and without much knowledge of it. But I think if it were pursued more as a science it could yield some interesting results.

Looking at the bigger whole to determine things about the microcosm makes a lot of sense to me. Its very obvious that revolving around the sun yields seasons. If external factors have that much affect on our climate and vegetation, who are we to exclude our own temperament and actions from them? There was a time when Astronomy and Astrology were not separate. I think the whole study needs a new, fresh, more scientific approach and should be studied a lot more than it is being studied today.

What could possibly be deduced from the study of astrology? Is there any logical reason to believe celestial activity influences and determines human activity?

Well like I said, I think, logically it makes sense to look at the activity of the larger perceivable whole as a possible influence on the activity of the smaller microcosm.

I agree that harmful radiation could cause cancer or we might get hit by an asteroid sometime in the future, but distant stars having a specific effect on what kind of personalities we have and what our average every-day futures are gonna be like? Nah .. I bet those stars don't even know what people and predictions are.

Constellations are man made patterns. They could have easily been something completely different i.e. a lot bigger or smaller, hence that would change what sign you would be.

And that's why Horoscopes aren't complete bull****. They're man made conclusions drawn from man made "signs" about men. They follow vague and generic stereo types, men fall into the categories. There's nothing celestial or other worldly about it. It's bull**** in that sense. But if you think of it as humans just building something up just to break it back down - then there you have astrology.

Right that's a given but I think they are kept track of by what is easily observable. And of course they are man made patterns just like laws of science are extremely predictable patterns (so as to be called 'law') designed by man made experiments. I understand that it's hard to suspend bias after all the ridiculous claims that have come from astrology in the recent past but to believe blindly in what is accepted right now about it (not a whole lot, scientifically speaking) is the same as believing blindly that the world could not be round like most people thought years ago. Good science is open minded, ready to be proved right, wrong or simply questionable. Just because astrology is unpopular now doesn't mean there might not be something to it. In the study of organisms it is impossible to separate the actions of the organism from its environment. So extend your outward seeking explanation from human 'behavior is determined by the Earth,' to 'the Earth's behavior is determined by its position in the solar system' (i.e. seanal changes), to 'the Solar system's behavior is determined by the Milky Way,' and so on and so forth. I don't mean to reject free will or genetics (to tie in that ethics discussion), but unless you can prove to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is NOT an outwardly acting force on our actions that exists simultaneously with our will, then I am open to the idea. One hypothesis for this could be the position of the Earth in relation to the rest of the universe.

I'm not telling anyone to look up their horoscope and act on it (I would never do this); I am simply writing this because I think it is important to be open to new scientific ideas. Science can limit just as easily as it can expand our perception, just like religion.

Well, I thought of writing a lengthy post because I think a lot of your claims are rather silly, but you're right in a way. You can certainly speculate it - like you might speculate that your whole life is a dream and that the world is actually ruled by machines that use us as organic batteries.

This almost word for word what I was thinking.

Really? What zodiac are you again? :D

"OMFG my horoscope said something kinda vague and I did a lot of things today an I guess one of them could fit in with what it said"

space is a grassy knoll and orion is the shooter.

Surely the shooter would be Sagittarius

orion is a hunter and man is the deadliest catch, duh.


but sagittarius works too i gues.s.

Orion didn't have any projectiles, that's all. But maybe he was just a patzee

he had a dick.

im a shooter.

Check out the dolphin constellation :

http://www.astromax.org/con-page/images/c-delph1.jpg

They had some wild imagination back in the days. I'm guessing shrooms may have been abundant.

hahahahahahaha...

thats great.

i'm curious as to why some people are so negative (bordering on hostile) about the fact that others chose to consider something superficial like astrology.

i've never seen anyone trying to force their supernatural beliefs on anyone else here but there are more than a few people ready to brow beat those who entertain the idea into their own pragmatic view on the spiritual self.

congratulations on using logic and science to beat down spirituality. how creatively wonderful is it for so-called art connoisseurs (we're all here because we know/care more about music than the mainstream right?) to use science and math to belittle a generally inconsequential and entertaining subset of the occult.

let's all bust out our calculators and REALLY get this party started. WOOooooo

You're right, we should all agree with Astrology or just not comment in this thread. Forums are a place for someone to say something and have everyone agree with them.

that's not what i'm saying and you know it.

if someone starts a thread about a band and people jump in with nothing better to say than 'that band sucks and your stupid for liking them' then they get labeled as a troll and told to either start posting something worth reading or to not post at all.

i was almost banned for having the 'gall' to claim that tom morello wasn't that great of a guitar player in the RATM thread (he's a hack). i had valid and factual arguments for my point of view yet i was called out as a 'troll' for being too negative in the thread.

why is this different?

If the people who are all into horoscopes didn't want this discussed then they should have stuck this in the lounge not here. I haven't seen a single logical reason for why distance celestial bodies determine human character. So forgive people if (having nothing to argue against since no one can answer that question) they sound condescending.

I guess I just think that its slightly less abstract to see a glimmer of possibility in the idea that our larger environment, which is readily observable with the naked eye, has an influence on us than to assume that we are in a robot induced dream being harvested for our energy. I'm not speculating, I'm trying to open this clearly closed door in your mind at least a crack because I don't think its so entirely far fetched. To reiterate... I'm not a follower of or believer in astrology in its current manifestation. I'm simply open to the idea of further investigation being done by people who know what they're talking about rather than a failed writer payed a measly wage to write crap horoscopes for people in newspapers.

Please feel free to tell me what is silly about my claims, I won't be offended. I'm quite enjoying the discussion.