The Official Barack Obama Thread (country, Creed, American, member)

[Double X]

Originally Posted by jgd85

both cops and teachers have unions... btw most of cops never use their guns or save anyones life. im not saying all cops suck, but your crazy if you have some idealisitic view of them. most of them are donut chomping highschool dropouts on a power trip (MOST, not all). teachers do deserve more money, but you are essentially comparing employees of a corporation to those who work for governments... not the same thing.

I like the cops in my town, half of them are volunteers and they all are doing what they enjoy. Only a handful make it their primary job.

Maybe teachers should make more money, but they only work 3/4ths of a year. Giving a lot money to teachers is hard because schools need to spend money on so many other things too.

[Yukon Cornelius]

you should read before you write

i know that cops and teachers are in unions they are the ones that should make 75 an hour. Are these Factory workers not drop outs?

[Double X]

Why does having a high school diploma or a college degree automatically mean you should make more than someone who doesn't?

[Yukon Cornelius]

Originally Posted by Double X

Why does having a high school diploma or a college degree automatically mean you should make more than someone who doesn't?

#1 because its not a mom and pop world anymore.
#2 I feel that you should have something to back complaints of underpayment since everyone has the option to go to college.
#3 You could have been a drop out and still get a higher education.
#4 It is your choice and i think that if you look at salaries that college grads get on average vs that of diploma only you would probably understand that its obvious.

I mean honestly there more educated period. Thats why.

[khfreek]

lol at #4, circular reasoning at it's finest

"College grads get higher salaries, therefore college grads should get higher salaries"

[Yukon Cornelius]

Originally Posted by khfreek

lol at #4, circular reasoning at it's finest

"College grads get higher salaries, therefore college grads should get higher salaries"

If you know that ice cream tastes good then you will eat. If you know that college grads make more money!! You decide its not worth it?? What the hell?

No matter how you cut that cake it is what it is.

How would you feel if the president was not college educated? Im not college educated, well i dont have a degree .. however remember that It takes a college degree to be a teacher and it doesnt to be a line worker at one of the big three and the benifits and pay are far better for them than that of a teachers.

Not all jobs require a degree but 9 times out of ten if you are educated in a particular field and you apply for a job against someone who is not you will probably get that job.

On top of that if people who complain about not making as much as a college grad have the same option if only they would get off thier azzes. Go cry to someone else.

[pahuuuta]

even though i dont really like him im glad i lived to see the first black president

[Yukon Cornelius]

Why do you not like him?

[Double X]

Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

#1 because its not a mom and pop world anymore.
#2 I feel that you should have something to back complaints of underpayment since everyone has the option to go to college.
#3 You could have been a drop out and still get a higher education.
#4 It is your choice and i think that if you look at salaries that college grads get on average vs that of diploma only you would probably understand that its obvious.

I mean honestly there more educated period. Thats why.

None of those are legitimate reasons, they are just ideals, not what is feasible in the real world. Since auto industries (used to) make a lot of money, the people that worked there could strike and the companies would just pay to avoid the strikes. If you work where the money is being made - you will be making a lot of money because the business is succeeding. Worldwide, schools are always pressed for cash, so they cannot afford to pay a teacher 100k a year, even if they got a college degree.

[Yukon Cornelius]

Originally Posted by Double X

None of those are legitimate reasons, they are just ideals, not what is feasible in the real world. Since auto industries (used to) make a lot of money, the people that worked there could strike and the companies would just pay to avoid the strikes. If you work where the money is being made - you will be making a lot of money because the business is succeeding. Worldwide, schools are always pressed for cash, so they cannot afford to pay a teacher 100k a year, even if they got a college degree.

O ok so your saying that if you drop out of school and dont get an education your in just as good of shoes as someone who did. Ideals I doubt it .