Solipsism Syndrome (youtube)

cardboard adolescent · 01-12-2009, 01:24 PM

it's a contagious disease so i don't feel comfortable saying too much about it, just curious if anyone else has had similar experiences? talk of synchronicities and singularities does seem to be on the rise... this has to be the most absurd topic in the world so let's talk about it... somebody

Sneer · 01-12-2009, 01:25 PM

... what is it?

WWWP · 01-12-2009, 01:28 PM

Link

sleepy jack · 01-12-2009, 01:45 PM

I don't know, on one hand I believe this is my life and everything is my love, or hatred and ultimately a manifestation of my own senses. But I think the world, as I know it (well not exactly as I, myself, know it but as we, as a collective species know it) could go on and will go on without me. I guess it's just as likely as anything that this all some clever ruse I've dreamed up but that's too hard for me to grasp. I guess I'm not egocentric enough (or maybe too self-loathing) to believe I have the intelligence to form a world like this, with all it's scientific rules and joys and sorrows and adventures. I'm not sure I have that brain capacity or creativity. I don't know eh, I'm certain of my insignificance, my simple intelligence and the universe's indifference.

cardboard adolescent · 01-12-2009, 01:48 PM

there is a gap between solipsism and solipsism syndrome though, on the one hand we have a super-skeptical philosophical argument an on the other hand you have an intangible experience, a depersonalization from reality, the feeling that life is a dream, the feeling that, as someone on another forum put it, "to stay sane we must ignore"

don't watch this:

swim · 01-12-2009, 02:08 PM

I think about this a lot actually. I didn't know there was a word for it. The most difficult part of this idea is thinking that you're capable of making a system so complex. Whether true or not it's probably not the best idea to completely convince yourself of it.

cardboard adolescent · 01-12-2009, 02:13 PM

I agree, but one realization that scared me was that the system is only as complex as the complexity you read into it. People ask, so you're saying your mind could have generated Shakespeare and Beethoven? You are capable of such things? But their brilliance is only proportional to the brilliance your mind can read into their work, most of us just rely on other people to tell us that they were great which to a solipsist of course proves nothing.

Sneer · 01-12-2009, 02:36 PM

If everything we perceive as reality is in fact a dream, then what are we?

Darkest Hour · 11-22-2009, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

If everything we perceive as reality is in fact a dream, then what are we?

A single consciousness experiencing itself.

swim · 01-12-2009, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

I agree, but one realization that scared me was that the system is only as complex as the complexity you read into it. People ask, so you're saying your mind could have generated Shakespeare and Beethoven? You are capable of such things? But their brilliance is only proportional to the brilliance your mind can read into their work, most of us just rely on other people to tell us that they were great which to a solipsist of course proves nothing.

It does get kind of mirrorical (yes I made up a word). I made something complex and great and the reason why it is complex and great is because of criteria that other people made up meaning that I really made it up meaning that it is only great because I'm the only one there is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu

If everything we perceive as reality is in fact a dream, then what are we?

It.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

Irrational ideas are irrational. Why would I want to believe this?

I suppose you wouldn't. Why would anyone believe it? The concept of questioning everything.

01-12-2009, 01:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,511	Solipsism Syndrome it's a contagious disease so i don't feel comfortable saying too much about it, just curious if anyone else has had similar experiences? talk of synchronicities and singularities does seem to be on the rise... this has to be the most absurd topic in the world so let's talk about it... somebody

01-12-2009, 01:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,397	... what is it? __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

01-12-2009, 02:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,145	I think about this a lot actually. I didn't know there was a word for it. The most difficult part of this idea is thinking that you're capable of making a system so complex. Whether true or not it's probably not the best idea to completely convince yourself of it. __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/

01-12-2009, 02:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,397	If everything we perceive as reality is in fact a dream, then what are we? __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

01-12-2009, 01:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,511	there is a gap between solipsism and solipsism syndrome though, on the one hand we have a super-skeptical philosophical argument an on the other hand you have an intangible experience, a depersonalization from reality, the feeling that life is a dream, the feeling that, as someone on another forum put it, "to stay sane we must ignore" don't watch this:

01-12-2009, 02:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,511	I agree, but one realization that scared me was that the system is only as complex as the complexity you read into it. People ask, so you're saying your mind could have generated Shakespeare and Beethoven? You are capable of such things? But their brilliance is only proportional to the brilliance your mind can read into their work, most of us just rely on other people to tell us that they were great which to a solipsist of course proves nothing.