Solipsism Syndrome

Guybrush · 04-01-2009, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamikazi Kat

The idea of it has gone through my head multiple times, although I haven't really thought of it in a long while. Most of the times that I thought about it was when I was much younger.

I found reading about NASA's guidelines to avoiding it while living in a man-made space colony, where everything is artificial and predictable. It was interesting to read something like that in such a cold, technical, almost how-to-guide manner. It would be hard to live in such isolation because you would be trying to trick yourself into thinking that the world appears bigger then it actually is. But since you know you are trying to do that, it cannot be achieved. Possibly, after years and years of isolation, holding on to the knowledge that there are uncontrollable elements beyond you may not be enough and you might go insane.

NASA predict people going insane from this? I can see how it might deter from general happiness in a space colony, but isn't crazy a bit dramatic?

Nation · 04-01-2009, 10:52 AM

I think it's a very interesting theory and, stupid or reckless as it sounds, I would love to experience it.
It intrigues me how people can be so wrapped up in a state of mind, that, to them, old life doesn't exist anymore.
And you never know, life might make perfect sense to those who have the syndrome, and anything outside of their mind doesn't add up for them.

Yes.. Intriguing... *Deters Idea from head so I don't go and get myself a syndrome I can't control*

Kamikazi Kat · 04-01-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

NASA predict people going insane from this? I can see how it might deter from general happiness in a space colony, but isn't crazy a bit dramatic?

I guess so. Although it wasn't NASA predicting that, nothing about going insane was said, that was just me. It would still suck either way. After years of living in those conditions, it would definately feel really lonely and isolated, even with other people living with you. When I was reading that, I just thought it would be kind of depressing to read/know that while living on a space colony. Things that you thought were just random occurences were actually just pre-planned "random" events to make your life seem a little bit less artificial.

Guybrush · 04-02-2009, 07:22 AM

I guess it sort of hints at a solution for those who suffer from solipsism .. Maybe their lives are a bit too predictable and controllable. Maybe they should take up fencing or river rafting or something .. Go out and enjoy the unpredictable and uncontrollable.

cardboard adolescent · 04-02-2009, 05:15 PM

Wittgenstein is the death of philosophy

cardboard adolescent · 04-04-2009, 06:25 PM

i have this story i don't know what to do with since i wrote it more or less to externalize myself from myself, but maybe someone could get something out of it. i don't know. probably there's no point in reading it. here it is anyway.

http://fc19.deviantart.com/fs43/f/20...ost_Impact.pdf

Darkest Hour · 11-23-2009, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu

If everything we perceive as reality is in fact a dream, then what are we?

A single consciousness experiencing itself.

Darkest Hour · 11-23-2009, 01:03 AM

How did the universe know to give us our five senses to correlate directly to it's reality? How could the universe be that complex? If you accept that it just did, then it seems incomprehensible. The only thing that does seem comprehensible is that we don't really exist, but we are just experiences from an infinite consciousness.

But then there is a paradox. If we are imaginations of ourselves, then how does the mere thought of consciousness even arise?

Barnard17 · 11-23-2009, 07:46 PM

The only thing so incomprehensible about sense is that people insist on questioning it's possibility with statements such as "yeah but genetically it's like one in a billion that it would turn out that way how can you believe in evolution" without considering how many billions of years the world has been about and how many failed/replaced genetic outcomes that will have occurred in that time. The question set up as "how did the universe know to give us..." is already weighted with an incredible amount of bias because the phrasing itself presupposes a background consciousness of some sort with an inevitable answer as a result.

And in answer to your paradox, it just would because that's the nature of the beast as it manifests. If it didn't that would open up a whole new range of paradoxic questions that people would be asking instead based upon their alternate perceptions. At the end of the day it doesn't matter and noone really cares. At what point did this thread cease to be about solipsism syndrome and become purely solipsism anyway?

The-Alice · 03-15-2010, 06:04 PM

Most of this still seems to be phylosophical, I was wondering if it is linked to particular disorders...
Some times I am convinced tha I do not exist
that 'I' doesn't exist, and so nither does a physical reality.
Or if it does it doesn't matter as I is not connected to it. I feel quite apathetic alot of the time, I think, but then I am sometimes unsure of what has or hasn't passed, once the presant has gone it is gone and there is no way of arriving at the future, so all that could exist is now, and now becomes past too quickly.
Feelings of dissasosiation...delocation, something, I don't know how to them handle them sometimes, then sometimes I have no will to. Thinking about cesing to exist or not existing in the first place or wanting to escape but there being nothing to escape from, it can be scary or lonely but mostly not, just kind of desolate? not knowing if there is anything i actualy feel and sometimes not feeling anything. I have hurt myself before, trying to make a pathway connection to the world.
But this is all too contradictory as I go places and I meet people and I forgete and feel, laughter, the uncontrollable kind is a big thing and bordom is definatly bad, though not always avoidable as I don't nessiserily enjoy the things I should enjoy.
And thoughts that link to this whole thing I guess, about humanity as a whole, sometimes I can't see why humanity wants to exist, everything we do can be basicaly put down to the servival of the speces, other wise there would be no morrality in our 'enjoyment of life' no one would seek to do anything which they do not enjoy, which did not directly benifit themselves. Existance to create existance, which seems quite futile to me.
(Some of the time)

04-01-2009, 10:52 AM	#52 (permalink)
Nation Groupie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 40	I think it's a very interesting theory and, stupid or reckless as it sounds, I would love to experience it. It intrigues me how people can be so wrapped up in a state of mind, that, to them, old life doesn't exist anymore. And you never know, life might make perfect sense to those who have the syndrome, and anything outside of their mind doesn't add up for them. Yes.. Intriguing... Deters Idea from head so I don't go and get myself a syndrome I can't control __________________ My music channel Nation's the name, Music is my game.

04-02-2009, 07:22 AM	#54 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	I guess it sort of hints at a solution for those who suffer from solipsism .. Maybe their lives are a bit too predictable and controllable. Maybe they should take up fencing or river rafting or something .. Go out and enjoy the unpredictable and uncontrollable. __________________ Something Completely Different

11-23-2009, 01:03 AM	#58 (permalink)
Darkest Hour Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 764	How did the universe know to give us our five senses to correlate directly to it's reality? How could the universe be that complex? If you accept that it just did, then it seems incomprehensible. The only thing that does seem comprehensible is that we don't really exist, but we are just experiences from an infinite consciousness. But then there is a paradox. If we are imaginations of ourselves, then how does the mere thought of consciousness even arise? __________________ Last edited by Darkest Hour; 11-23-2009 at 07:10 PM.

11-23-2009, 07:46 PM	#59 (permalink)
Barnard17 My home? Discabled, Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 204	The only thing so incomprehensible about sense is that people insist on questioning it's possibility with statements such as "yeah but genetically it's like one in a billion that it would turn out that way how can you believe in evolution" without considering how many billions of years the world has been about and how many failed/replaced genetic outcomes that will have occurred in that time. The question set up as "how did the universe know to give us..." is already weighted with an incredible amount of bias because the phrasing itself presupposes a background consciousness of some sort with an inevitable answer as a result. And in answer to your paradox, it just would because that's the nature of the beast as it manifests. If it didn't that would open up a whole new range of paradoxic questions that people would be asking instead based upon their alternate perceptions. At the end of the day it doesn't matter and noone really cares. At what point did this thread cease to be about solipsism syndrome and become purely solipsism anyway? __________________ Vita brevis, Occasio praeceps

04-02-2009, 05:15 PM	#55 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	Wittgenstein is the death of philosophy

03-15-2010, 06:04 PM	#60 (permalink)
The-Alice Groupie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1	Most of this still seems to be phylosophical, I was wondering if it is linked to particular disorders... Some times I am convinced tha I do not exist that 'I' doesn't exist, and so nither does a physical reality. Or if it does it doesn't matter as I is not connected to it. I feel quite apathetic alot of the time, I think, but then I am sometimes unsure of what has or hasn't passed, once the presant has gone it is gone and there is no way of arriving at the future, so all that could exist is now, and now becomes past too quickly. Feelings of dissasosiation...delocation, something, I don't know how to them handle them sometimes, then sometimes I have no will to. Thinking about cesing to exist or not existing in the first place or wanting to escape but there being nothing to escape from, it can be scary or lonely but mostly not, just kind of desolate? not knowing if there is anything i actualy feel and sometimes not feeling anything. I have hurt myself before, trying to make a pathway connection to the world. But this is all too contradictory as I go places and I meet people and I forgete and feel, laughter, the uncontrollable kind is a big thing and bordom is definatly bad, though not always avoidable as I don't nessiserily enjoy the things I should enjoy. And thoughts that link to this whole thing I guess, about humanity as a whole, sometimes I can't see why humanity wants to exist, everything we do can be basicaly put down to the servival of the speces, other wise there would be no morrality in our 'enjoyment of life' no one would seek to do anything which they do not enjoy, which did not directly benifit themselves. Existance to create existance, which seems quite futile to me. (Some of the time)