Freebase Dali

Dude... chance is based on percentage, which is based on numbers.

First, count the number of human Earths... then go ahead and attempt to count the number of galaxies in the universe.
Then get back to us on quantification of chance.

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Darkest Hour

i believe that there is other Intelligent life out there, but there is no way of telling. The fact that there is an infinite amount of stars out there, doesn't mean that at any place in the universe, everything had to come together perfectly for intelligent life to form. I really think there is, but i don't think it is illogical to say there is just as good of a chance for either possibility.

That wasn't the point of my post anyways.

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lucifer_sam

that still offers an air of genuine inconceivability, which is what scientists try to eschew when making grand statements like that.

in all likelihood, most definitely yes. will we ever find proof that other civilizations exist, in our lifetime, or for that matter, the lifetime of humanity itself? probably not.

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Freebase Dali

True... I just mean that the likelihood exists, rather than the likelihood that we'll ever have definitive proof of that existence.

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Darkest Hour

this just popped up in another forum. I am now completely convinced that there are aliens in our own back yards.

YouTube - Roommate Alien Prank Goes Bad

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Miltamec Soundsquinaez

There are billions(I've seen the # estimated as 200billion) of solar systems in our galaxy, the closest one being Sirius, and I don't even know if the Hubble telescope can tell if there is life in that solar system. So, basically science hasn't yet nullified the possibility of life in any of the Milky Way's solar systems.

Then consider that there are billions(this # has also been estimated as 200billion) of galaxies. (The Milky Way happens to be a pretty monstrous galaxy, and it's believed we're in the process of swallowing the dwarf galaxy Sagittarius at this moment, meaning that most galaxies probably have far fewer than our estimated 200billion solar systems)But since we can't see all of the galaxies in the universe, (meaning the # of galaxies could be much, much more)I'll go ahead and just multiply those #'s.

200billion
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200billion
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40000000000000000000000

40,000,000,000,000,000,000,000-just let that # sit there, because honestly, Id even k what comes after trillion, but that's a rough estimate of how many solar systems there are in our universe. Each and every single one of them have potential for life.

Now consider that life is generally nurtured in any place where it is capable of taking place. I don't think Earth even started out with water when it was first being formed. It's believe that ice and water rich comets crashed into our planet billions of years ago, making life possible today.

So, timing played a big part in why we're able to enjoy this wondrous life, and there are probably billions of planets that don't currently have life, but will someday. But the point is there are probably billions, if not trillions and trillions of planets out there will life........and yes, intelligent life, some much more intelligent.

DH, I'm having a hard time seeing your point because in many posts you've stated that aliens exist without a doubt in your mind, and then you go making a silly statement like 'there is as good a chance of there not being other intelligent life as the chance there is,' I realize you stated that wasn't really your original intention, but I don't understand, do you believe in extraterrestrial life, or not?

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Freebase Dali

Now you're just being completely annoying.
That joke can't come from someone like you... it doesn't make as much sense.

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Freebase Dali

P.S.... the number that comes after a trillion is called "Approaching U.S. Deficit."
It's a commonly used mathematical term.

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Darkest Hour

That last sentence was an afterthought. Yes, i believe there are aliens out there. If i had to bet money on it, i would say there is probably something intelligent in our own galaxy. There is nothing about what i said that denies aliens exist or anything anyways, it was just something i was thinking at the time.

Anyways, how much of this stuff do you think the government is covering up?

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Miltamec Soundsquinaez

The government gets involved in a lot of stuff they don't want us to know about, for instance 'remote viewing'. It's based on the idea that our awareness can travel outside the body, i.e. (out of body experience).We started using this in the 70's when we found out Russia and China were already using them. Psychics w/ E.S.P. are brought in to view certain Earth coordinates to perceive possible threats.

That's pretty outlandish, but at risk of being persecuted, I'm forced to recall the part in 2012 Enigma, where D.W. is talking to the guy formerly involved in the Philadelphia Experiment, who while still in the military, said he was going to work every day in an underground base in Mars. You just step into a portal here on Earth, and are tranpsorted to Mars, sounds fuking waktastic, but he seemed totally sincere in the presentation.

So yeah, I believe they consistently cover up extraterrestrial phenomena, and while I think E.T.'s can communicate w/ us and do, I really don't think they would have enough trust in the government to make them their contacts. I also believe they cover up info. about inter-dimensional portals, like the one near Hudson Valley U.F.O. sightings and Bermuda Triangle, and obviously they would never want U.S. taxpayers to know their money is going to support some kind of extrasensory weapons inspections to supplement our own C.L.I.A.(ClackofIA), so, imo there's a shiload of stuff going on that we don't know and probably will know about in a few more years.

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