Obama's Cabinet (single, American, shows, low quality, quote)

dac · 12-03-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

I think thats already in place though.

And are you comfortable knowing your doctor is doing what their doing because of the money?

Would we get more quality teachers if they were paid more?

And how big is your heartattack fund? you know, in case.

I AM in fact comfortable because with the way the system is set up doctor's have to do a good job or they'll lose everything in lawsuits. Further, those who make it through medical school are doing so because being a doctor is what they want to do. If teachers were paid more I think you WOULD get higher quality people because then your smarter students will see teaching as an option (As opposed to Engineering, Medical fields, etc...). And while I have no heart attack fund, my parents have insurance, something the poor members of our country often do not.

TheBig3 · 12-03-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dac

I AM in fact comfortable because with the way the system is set up doctor's have to do a good job or they'll lose everything in lawsuits. Further, those who make it through medical school are doing so because being a doctor is what they want to do. If teachers were paid more I think you WOULD get higher quality people because then your smarter students will see teaching as an option (As opposed to Engineering, Medical fields, etc...). And while I have no heart attack fund, my parents have insurance, something the poor members of our country often do not.

It would be nice if the lawsuits were for real issues, but lawsuits as they exist currently are mostly frivolous and waste time. The law system as it is now actually hinders speedy recovery for those with legitimate complaints.

A question about your educational rhetoric, if we pay more, we’ll get better teacher. So what you’re saying is right now we have ****ty teachers because they’re not paid enough? Then why is anyone teaching at all?

The heart attack fund was more in reference that someday you parents coverage won’t cover you. When you’re solo in your 20’s you health coverage sucks complete ass. Take it from a 20 something on his own.

dac · 12-03-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

It would be nice if the lawsuits were for real issues, but lawsuits as they exist currently are mostly frivolous and waste time. The law system as it is now actually hinders speedy recovery for those with legitimate complaints.

A question about your educational rhetoric, if we pay more, we’ll get better teacher. So what you’re saying is right now we have ****ty teachers because they’re not paid enough? Then why is anyone teaching at all?

The heart attack fund was more in reference that someday you parents coverage won’t cover you. When you’re solo in your 20’s you health coverage sucks complete ass. Take it from a 20 something on his own.

I think this solution, as with most all issues, lies in the middle. Completely universal healthcare has it's downsides, as does completely private healthcare. That's the problem with America, it's always Plan A or Plan B... why not plan AB?

My mother is a teacher, she actually won 4th grade teacher of the year in her inner city school district... But she'll be the first to tell you there is some real scum in the teaching business.

sleepy jack · 12-03-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Which is fair, but who would you have in her place?

There are more than the reasons that are on paper that led to this decision.

I understand that and like I said I'm just uneasy about how well Clinton will work with him because I feel she's just a fake candidate who cares more about staying in power than staying true to an ideology but that could be said of probably ninety percent of politicians. I sort of expected her to get it though so I didn't do much digging into the other people on the short list (John Kerry, Bill Richardson and Richard Lugar) so there might be some things about them I like and I only have a general knowledge of the three of them, though I know a bit more about Kerry and I'm not a fan of him. I don't like his whole 'global test' idea. The other two I do like though. Richardson I like because I feel he was the most experienced out of the lot (he was an ambassador to the UN more than can be said of Clinton or Kerry) and seemed to have a level head. Lugar I would love, not only because he agrees with Obama foreign policy but he influenced them as well and I think he'd be great to have. He's seventy six though so I don't know if he'd be able to ride out the full eight years.

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Originally Posted by dac

I think this solution, as with most all issues, lies in the middle. Completely universal healthcare has it's downsides, as does completely private healthcare. That's the problem with America, it's always Plan A or Plan B... why not plan AB?

My mother is a teacher, she actually won 4th grade teacher of the year in her inner city school district... But she'll be the first to tell you there is some real scum in the teaching business.

Lol and what is the middle ground for private health care and universal health care? They're completely opposite ideas I don't know how you could possibly combine the two.

~~The Unfan~~ · 12-03-2008, 05:34 PM

Health care clubs that allow people to pay their money for the health care of others?

dac · 12-03-2008, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack

Lol and what is the middle ground for private health care and universal health care? They're completely opposite ideas I don't know how you could possibly combine the two.

Establish government run and regulated healthcare funds to help the poor community while still keeping it relatively privatized. People can apply for additional funding for their healthcare and people applying for money due to the more serious problems are addressed asap.

sleepy jack · 12-03-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dac

Establish government run and regulated healthcare funds to help the poor community while still keeping it relatively privatized. People can apply for additional funding for their healthcare and people applying for money due to the more serious problems are addressed asap.

This idea has one giant flaw (aside from the fact it would be incredibly difficult to apply.) The poor people aren't paying anything back for what they're receiving and the people paying for their health care are also covering themselves and their family. I rarely side with the middle/upper class but here I'd have to.

~~The Unfan~~ · 12-03-2008, 06:14 PM

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Establish government run and regulated healthcare funds to help the poor community while still keeping it relatively privatized. People can apply for additional funding for their healthcare and people applying for money due to the more serious problems are addressed asap.

So poor people get free health care at the expense of the upper class while the upper class doesn't and has to pay for their own on top of it? Being poor is cool!

sleepy jack · 12-03-2008, 06:15 PM

It wouldn't just be the upper class though; it would be anyone that could afford health care and paid their taxes.

dac · 12-03-2008, 07:31 PM

How about we just pull out all the money dumped into welfare and use for the medical fund?

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