Oh yay, another political thread! (Prop 8, gay marriage stuff)

**Janszoon** · 11-23-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

No he's not. He's entitled to his opinion, just as you are...IMO

Preferences and orientation aside though, it was proven quite some time ago that AIDS (and other STDs for that matter), are far more prevalent between homosexual coupled-activities than other kinds of couplings due to the anal sex emphasis in the former. Its not good evidence against ***-marriage, but its a common point of argument for those that are against it.

That's pretty weak argument for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that fact that lesbians have a much lower incidence of HIV than heterosexuals. Then of course that the fact that marriage by it's very nature is about monogamy. STDs don't really get spread around among people who only have one sexual partner.

Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01 · 11-23-2008, 03:49 PM

Words of wisdom about Gay marriage by The Voice of the Soul;

Well, maybe not wisdom, but definitely my own opinion.

I personally think there is no good reason to ban *** marriage, and every argument I've heard against it is ridiculous;

Marriage is a sacred institution; Bull****. If marriage were so sacred, why do we have divorces, adultery, marriages for green card purposes? The Christians need to take the blind fold off and realize nothing is sacred in this world, and a couple of ***s getting married pales insignificant to, say, all the gold diggers in this world with their hands firmly around the balls of some rich bastard.

Legalizing *** marriage give ***s special rights straight people don't have; I read somewhere some guy said that ***s DO have the right to marry... the opposite gender. They have a right to marry, the same right that straight people have, so supposedly there is no discrimination. I'm thinking "This is ****ing stupid." It gets better; He also said by legalizing *** marriage, we would be giving ***s the "special right" to marry people of the same gender. Suppose this is true. It wouldn't be a special right. Straight people would have the same right to marry people of the same sex as well if *** marriage was legalized. Even with that in mind, WHY would that happen? A straight man isn't going to marry another man no sooner than a *** man is going to marry a woman.

*** marriage will create a slippery slope to legalized bestiality, polygamy, and incest; Oh yeah, because when I think of sodomy in wedlock, I think "Y'know what would make this better? A cowboy banging his life partner/horse while his wife/sister is sucking it off." Bestiality won't be legalized because society still looks upon that as animal abuse. Plus, seeing as how an animal can't legally consent to having sex, it still couldn't work. Incest.... y'can't really stop incest, by law or otherwise. It's going to happen whether you legalize *** marriage or not, and yes I think it's disgusting, but I think *** sex is disgusting. My thoughts shouldn't stop other people from doing it.

However, while I think it's wrong for the government to even conceive a ban of *** marriage, doing the opposite would be just as unconstitutional. Forcing the Church to do something that goes against their beliefs, no matter how discriminating it may be, is a violation of their First Amendment rights. In Christianity, homosexuality is a sin, and if they don't want to condone it, who are we to force them to believe as we do? We'd be no better than them. Freedom is a two way street. If a priest or a minister decides on his own to marry two *** people, that's great, but they shouldn't be forced to do it, nor should they be forced to not do it.

As far as civil unions go, the government is obligated to grant ***s this right. The government isn't influenced by a higher supernatural power (or isn't supposed to be), so religion or the freedom of religion doesn't apply.

I would say more, but I must get ready for work.

simplephysics · 11-23-2008, 03:54 PM

Gay marriage will create a slippery slope to legalized bestiality, polygamy, and incest.

This is bullshit.

adidasss · 11-23-2008, 04:01 PM

He said as much.
Incidentally, priests would not be forced to do anything against their religion, that would be unconstitutional, what gay people are asking is only for the government to recognize the same rights as they do to hetero couples.

Double X · 11-23-2008, 04:40 PM

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khfreek · 11-23-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Double X

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What?

Double X · 11-23-2008, 04:45 PM

To put it back into my subscribed threads...

Terrible Lizard · 11-23-2008, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dreadnaught

*** marriage will create a slippery slope to legalized bestiality, polygamy, and incest.

This is bull****.

Bestiality is wrong because it's not consensual, incest and polygamy can be and people should have the right to do so if they choose. Personally I'm not for it, but I don't have the right to tell people how they should feel.

And the fact that you put homosexuality in the same category as bestiality is not just ignorant, it's distasteful.

khfreek · 11-23-2008, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrible Lizard

Bestiality is wrong because it's not consensual, incest and polygamy can be and people should have the right to do so if they choose. Personally I'm not for it, but I don't have the right to tell people how they should feel.

And the fact that you put homosexuality in the same category as bestiality is not just ignorant, it's distasteful.

No, he was quoting Voice of the Soul (who was making an example of why people may be against homosexuality). I have yet to see a person in here against *** marriage, whihc makes me happy

Tobias · 11-24-2008, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by khfreek

No, he was quoting Voice of the Soul (who was making an example of why people may be against homosexuality). I have yet to see a person in here against *** marriage, whihc makes me happy

yes, which leads me to ask this question:

Why is the word G A Y censored?

11-23-2008, 03:49 PM	#92 (permalink)
Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01 #1 Schuldinist. Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 420	Words of wisdom about Gay marriage by The Voice of the Soul; Well, maybe not wisdom, but definitely my own opinion. I personally think there is no good reason to ban * marriage, and every argument I've heard against it is ridiculous; Marriage is a sacred institution; Bull. If marriage were so sacred, why do we have divorces, adultery, marriages for green card purposes? The Christians need to take the blind fold off and realize nothing is sacred in this world, and a couple of s getting married pales insignificant to, say, all the gold diggers in this world with their hands firmly around the balls of some rich bastard. Legalizing marriage give s special rights straight people don't have; I read somewhere some guy said that s DO have the right to marry... the opposite gender. They have a right to marry, the same right that straight people have, so supposedly there is no discrimination. I'm thinking "This is ing stupid." It gets better; He also said by legalizing * marriage, we would be giving *s the "special right" to marry people of the same gender. Suppose this is true. It wouldn't be a special right. Straight people would have the same right to marry people of the same sex as well if * marriage was legalized. Even with that in mind, WHY would that happen? A straight man isn't going to marry another man no sooner than a * man is going to marry a woman. * marriage will create a slippery slope to legalized bestiality, polygamy, and incest; Oh yeah, because when I think of sodomy in wedlock, I think "Y'know what would make this better? A cowboy banging his life partner/horse while his wife/sister is sucking it off." Bestiality won't be legalized because society still looks upon that as animal abuse. Plus, seeing as how an animal can't legally consent to having sex, it still couldn't work. Incest.... y'can't really stop incest, by law or otherwise. It's going to happen whether you legalize * marriage or not, and yes I think it's disgusting, but I think * sex is disgusting. My thoughts shouldn't stop other people from doing it. However, while I think it's wrong for the government to even conceive a ban of * marriage, doing the opposite would be just as unconstitutional. Forcing the Church to do something that goes against their beliefs, no matter how discriminating it may be, is a violation of their First Amendment rights. In Christianity, homosexuality is a sin, and if they don't want to condone it, who are we to force them to believe as we do? We'd be no better than them. Freedom is a two way street. If a priest or a minister decides on his own to marry two * people, that's great, but they shouldn't be forced to do it, nor should they be forced to not do it. As far as civil unions go, the government is obligated to grant ***s this right. The government isn't influenced by a higher supernatural power (or isn't supposed to be), so religion or the freedom of religion doesn't apply. I would say more, but I must get ready for work. __________________ I don't mean to dwell But I can't help myself When I feel the vibe And taste a memory Of a time in life When years seemed to stand still

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adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	He said as much. Incidentally, priests would not be forced to do anything against their religion, that would be unconstitutional, what gay people are asking is only for the government to recognize the same rights as they do to hetero couples. __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

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Double X sleepe Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: boston Posts: 1,140	To put it back into my subscribed threads...