Obama - The next president of the USA. ITS OFFICIAL! (country, Europe)

Dr_Rez · 11-06-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by xxawwxsugarxx

But do you think they would have voted differently if they had known more about each candidate?

Not what their friends say, not what the media says, but what they themselves found out?

It is unfair to say that young people in general dont know how to vote. A good deal of them make informed decisions, and know more about whats going on than most adults via teachers in school, or conversations with others.

Arya Stark · 11-06-2008, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RezZ

It is unfair to say that young people in general dont know how to vote. A good deal of them make informed decisions, and know more about whats going on than most adults via teachers in school, or conversations with others.

Of course, I'm not disagreeing with you.

I was just asking your opinion.

I'm more informed than many people in my school on politics.

But that isn't saying much.

Very few of the students in my school are informed at all...

I'm sure if you brought up about 5 random topics concerning politics, I'd know only a tidbit about one or two of the subjects.

tdoc210 · 11-06-2008, 05:35 PM

how old are you

The Monkey · 11-09-2008, 05:29 PM

I'm sure Obama will disappoint like all politicians do, but at least he's a step in the right direction.

TheBig3 · 11-10-2008, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by FaSho

There really isn't much to gloat about. McCain and Obama are both terrible presidential canidates, we just picked the lesser of two evils so to speak.

Why are they terrible? You had many many folks far more intelligent than the likes that post here saying this was the best offering we've had in awhlie.

I'd like for you to elaborate.

FaSho · 11-10-2008, 02:06 PM

You can get a lot of knowledge simply by using wikipedia.

McCain:

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The two political issues that voters have been most concerned about in 2008 are the economy and Iraq.[253] On the economy, McCain says he would make the Bush tax cuts permanent instead of letting them expire, eliminate the Alternative Minimum Tax so as to assist the middle-class, double the personal exemption for dependents, reduce the corporate tax rate, and offer a new research and development tax credit.[254][255] At the same time, he pledges to eliminate pork-barrel spending, freeze nondefense discretionary spending for a year or more, and reduce Medicare growth.[255] McCain is also opposed to high salaries and lucrative severance deals of corporate CEOs and is in favor of Say on pay laws that give stockholders a vote on executive compensation.[255][256] Another proposal of the Arizona senator is to build 45 new nuclear reactors by 2030, in order to fight climate change and establish U.S. energy independence

Obama:

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In September 2007, he blamed special interests for distorting the U.S. tax code.[157] His plan would eliminate taxes for senior citizens with incomes of less than $50,000 a year, repeal income tax cuts for those making over $250,000 as well as the capital gains and dividends tax cut,[158] close corporate tax loopholes, lift the income cap on Social Security taxes, restrict offshore tax havens, and simplify filing of income tax returns by pre-filling wage and bank information already collected by the IRS.[159] Announcing his presidential campaign's energy plan in October 2007, Obama proposed a cap and trade auction system to restrict carbon emissions and a ten year program of investments in new energy sources to reduce U.S. dependence on imported oil.[160] Obama proposed that all pollution credits must be auctioned, with no grandfathering of credits for oil and gas companies, and the spending of the revenue obtained on energy development and economic transition costs

khfreek · 11-10-2008, 04:25 PM

I don't see anything wrong with Obama's plans. You lose some tax cuts if you make over $250K a year (a LOT of money), boohoo.

Astronomer · 11-10-2008, 04:27 PM

Well apparently with the US financial crisis plan, Australia's economy is going to go down the drain

from what I've heard.

Fruitonica · 11-10-2008, 06:35 PM

^Pretty much everywhere sinks when the US goes down, but at least we aren't in recession yet. China just released an $800 billion stimulus package that hopefully might pick things up a little.

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You can get a lot of knowledge simply by using wikipedia.

Congratulations, you've learned how to copy and paste. Maybe a little bit of analysis would actually give you some semblance of an argument.

TheBig3 · 11-11-2008, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FaSho

You can get a lot of flawed knowledge simply by using wikipedia.

alright so now that I've fixed your foolish statement let me point something out here.

Whenever you see what they "support" or "reject" you ahve to remember these things are part of bills. Bills that have countless other bull **** attached. Don't think clowns with agendas aren't sitting on the internet attempted to distort that.

and for christ sakes never use Wikipedia for anything political again.

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