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WendyCal · 10-24-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

How much do you think it costs to put someone down?

A lot less than it would cost to keep them in a cage for the rest of their lives.

WendyCal · 10-24-2008, 08:46 PM

And i guess before my stance on abortion comes up,

i should tell you that i think of capital punishment as self-defense.

sleepy jack · 10-24-2008, 09:08 PM

How is it self-defense?

WendyCal · 10-24-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack

How is it self-defense?

It protects us from people who are too sick and who really can't realize just how bad what they're doing IS.

sleepy jack · 10-24-2008, 09:20 PM

Well that's a generalization about all victims of capitol punishment I won't go into. How does it protect us? They're already locked up so they can't harm us...so that's protection right there.

Trauma · 10-24-2008, 09:30 PM

I believe in capital punishment to an extent: it has to happen very rarely and they must be absolutely sure that the people convicted are guilty.
Not like they are with Troy Davis.

Then again, I condone abortion.

How is someone going to condone the death penalty but not abortion?
Isn't that ultimate hypocrisy?

sleepy jack · 10-24-2008, 09:32 PM

It all depends on when you believe life begins. All the anti-abortionists I've met think life begins at conception, which they all base off a biblical principle and being a firm believer in seperation of church and state I don't think that reasoning should amount to anything.

WendyCal · 10-24-2008, 09:32 PM

My family had a monkey for about 35 years. No, they didn't support the monkey trade overseas ~ when we left Japan, we had a myna bird that was coming with us, or so we thought. Because of Parrot Fever, which only affects parrots, but which people evidently equate with ANY talking bird, we couldn't bring him. My folks knew some other people that loved the bird, and they had just gotten a baby monkey, but, because it was afraid and remembered being caught by asian people, it hated the Japanese lady, and like so often happens, it was being abused. Anyway, my folks traded, and brought Tami to the states.

For quite a while, we could handle him, but as he got older, he got more dangerous. i have a TON of stitches to prove that you can't help something that doesn't understand where you're coming from... Well, anyway, until the last 10 years of his life, he lived in a dog run near the house. It broke my heart that he never got to be a monkey, all because he couldn't understand to NOT hurt us.

Anyway, i've thought long and hard about living in a cell, and what it would be to like live in the bathroom (about the right size), with no privacy, and little to no comforts of home,

and it would suck.

sleepy jack · 10-24-2008, 09:35 PM

That's a personal preference and basing a law on a personal preference based on animal related experiences would be absurd.

WendyCal · 10-24-2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack

Well that's a generalization about all victims of capitol punishment I won't go into. How does it protect us? They're already locked up so they can't harm us...so that's protection right there.

That was only the half of it ~ the other half i addressed above.

It really IS cruel and unusual punishment to lock ANYthing in a cage for the rest of its life, imho.

10-24-2008, 09:30 PM	#86 (permalink)
Trauma snickers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: detroit Posts: 2,194	I believe in capital punishment to an extent: it has to happen very rarely and they must be absolutely sure that the people convicted are guilty. Not like they are with Troy Davis. Then again, I condone abortion. How is someone going to condone the death penalty but not abortion? Isn't that ultimate hypocrisy? __________________ A mi no me importa nada Para mi la vida es un sueño

10-24-2008, 08:46 PM	#82 (permalink)
WendyCal Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 271	And i guess before my stance on abortion comes up, i should tell you that i think of capital punishment as self-defense.

10-24-2008, 09:32 PM	#88 (permalink)
WendyCal Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 271	My family had a monkey for about 35 years. No, they didn't support the monkey trade overseas ~ when we left Japan, we had a myna bird that was coming with us, or so we thought. Because of Parrot Fever, which only affects parrots, but which people evidently equate with ANY talking bird, we couldn't bring him. My folks knew some other people that loved the bird, and they had just gotten a baby monkey, but, because it was afraid and remembered being caught by asian people, it hated the Japanese lady, and like so often happens, it was being abused. Anyway, my folks traded, and brought Tami to the states. For quite a while, we could handle him, but as he got older, he got more dangerous. i have a TON of stitches to prove that you can't help something that doesn't understand where you're coming from... Well, anyway, until the last 10 years of his life, he lived in a dog run near the house. It broke my heart that he never got to be a monkey, all because he couldn't understand to NOT hurt us. Anyway, i've thought long and hard about living in a cell, and what it would be to like live in the bathroom (about the right size), with no privacy, and little to no comforts of home, and it would suck.