Double X

I guess I really fail at understanding economics as a whole. I always thought that democrats were historically known for having shit money management for overtaxing, and the Republicans were known for an unnecessarily large military and not caring about social reforms. I know it's not black and white like that, but now Clinton seemed to manage economy okay (surplus?) and Bush seemed to play into big business and wasted endless money in Iraq where it screwed the rest of us...

Does that sound right?

sleepy jack

Yeah but did Clinton come right out and admit he cheated on his wife? I just don't think Edwards would stance much of a chance because this nation is full of religious people.

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Son of JayJamJah

Yes. Clinton's advantage was no War. Most of the money you and I pay in taxes (over half) is for paying off past and present military campaigns. Still the middle class is taxed less under Bush's (both elder and current) policies. This Bush admin's mismanagement is, as you said, with the War.

Republicans are typically for smaller government and more personal accountability but are moving away from those principals rapidly.

Democrats, traditionally speaking, tax more and are more likely to use if for the "majority's" collective interests, such as health care, school funding, environmental protection\preservation etc.

There is little difference in the proposed tax policies of Obama and McCain aside from Obama proposing to put a heavier burden on the upper class incomes.

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sleepy jack

So about last night's debate...McCain said (multiple times) he knows how to get Osama and he will get him. Why hasn't he shared it with other people, like the CIA?

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Wifey Boozer

In watching the debate, I felt more compelled each time he spoke to punch McCain in the face. I think it was ridiculous for him to say he "knows how to get Osama... I'll get him, I'll get him." It's like saying, "You all relax your pretty heads about that. I'll git 'im, I'll git 'im." Like he's a ****ing lost puppy or something.

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Son of JayJamJah

God forbid a man with extensive Wartime experience suggest he might know how to capture or kill our nations worst enemy.

Debates are meaningless, they don't debate they recite rehearsed talking points. All I've learned from the debates is Obama is not clever, witty or funny at all. And Biden is somehow even less these things.

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sleepy jack

He didn't suggest, he flat out said he knows how to get Osama and will get him. He also said he knows how to get America working again, can fix social security and the economy. So yeah he's going to be made fun of. I don't really think his wartime experience is going to make much of a difference either I think it just helps his image of "I'm going to get the terrorists because I've fought commies in Vietnam!"

I'd take that one step further and say the talking points are ridiculous as well. Both parties ideologies are already pretty well known and each candidates individual beliefs have already been advertised so much there's hardly anything about them you don't know. The whole thing is pretty much just a partisan circle jerk. Look at what democrats/republicans say after each debate "My candidate won!" tis ridiculous.

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Son of JayJamJah

Wartime experience changes you unimaginably.

It's the only difference between McCain and Obama relevant to this election.

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sleepy jack

I didn't say it doesn't change you, I just said I don't see how its beneficial to him getting Osama.

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Son of JayJamJah

He has to say that. Like we both said, it's all talking points. McCain has an obvious edge with his military experience and that makes some voters confident, he needs to play on that confidence.

It's not a big deal.

1. He will be trying his damnedest to catch Osama.

2. He can't say "I might catch Osama"


What do you think of McCain's strategy to work the "Weather Underground" connection against Obama?

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