The Debates (country, house, Europe, Religious, volume)

jibber · 10-10-2008, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fyrenza

i haven't shifted at all

he holds DUAL citizenship -- so he's 1/2 alien
he DID go to muslim schools
and i'd like to find out about any terrorist activities he condones

i said it that way because YOU can't seem to get a grip on the fact that he might not be all that

I just lost any shred of doubt that you were as dumb as I thought you to be. For the last time people, muslim is not a synonym for terrorist. Of course he went to muslim schools, he grew up in Indonesia, a MUSLIM country. That does not in any way, shape or form mean that he condones terrorist activities.

~~Fyrenza~~ · 10-10-2008, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jibber

Again. Is this the only thing you know about the election? Do you have any opinions on any other matter or do you chose just to grab on to this one because it's easy to understand?Maybe all the real issues are too complex.

He is perfectly justified in not giving up those documents. Why should he waste his time dispelling rumours that have been decided as false by anyone with half a brain? No one is talking about this anymore because it is old news. The rest of the world has moved on from this, decided it was ridiculous and unfounded, and are now on to more important issues.

I'm tired of refuting it. It's a non-issue. If you want to talk about the election candidates, talk about something else. I've hand fed you quite a few topics to try your hand at, but you seem incapable of talking about anything other than this insane rumour. This is what clinton's campaign was based on, grasping at non-issues in order to sway uninformed, un-educated voters away from Obama with scare tactics. This is now what McCains campaign is based on. This also seems to be your only ammunition in a political debate. Like I said many, MANY times before. Either get a new argument, or take a seat.

and
again

since you can't disspell even the first little rumor that comes up about this joker

i guess we're at an impasse

and fyi
americans generally fork up ID willingly
so him NOT doing it
IS suspicious

sleepy jack · 10-10-2008, 12:53 AM

Okay so it IS the only thing you know about the election.

jibber · 10-10-2008, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Fyrenza

and
again

since you can't disspell even the first little rumor that comes up about this joker

i guess we're at an impasse

and fyi
americans generally fork up ID willingly
so him NOT doing it
IS suspicious

It has been dispelled. As ethan said, EVERY major news source has deemed any and all rumours absolute bull****. factchecker.org has deemed it bull****. Anyone who is not legally retarded has deemed it bull****.

Now please, we've gone over this enough, and you have yet to provide any intelligent comments on any of the candidates. I'd love to hear your opinions on McCain and the Keating 5, or about Palin and the troopergate scandal.

~~Fyrenza~~ · 10-10-2008, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jibber

I just lost any shred of doubt that you were as dumb as I thought you to be. For the last time people, muslim is not a synonym for terrorist. Of course he went to muslim schools, he grew up in Indonesia, a MUSLIM country. That does not in any way, shape or form mean that he condones terrorist activities.

you know, jibber, i just happen to have a little experience with living in a foreign country and going to religious schools
and living around the children who weren't foreigners

he's muslim
and even that would be fine

but he's choosing to associate with KNOWN terrorists
for whatever reason
really - even if it's all innocent, WHY would someone in his position do that??? what? is HE brain-dead???

he's acting like he needs to cover up his past -- again, why? americans don't generally act that way

then he starts trying to hold a hand out to our sworn enemies
who think we're all infidels who need to be converted or killed

hey
i don't mind saying i'm a little suspicious of this guy
and until WHO he actually is gets cleared up
i really don't care what he says about anything

sleepy jack · 10-10-2008, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fyrenza

you know, jibber, i just happen to have a little experience with living in a foreign country and going to religious schools
and living around the children who weren't foreigners

Wow, you really should put your foot in your mouth right now. Assumptions make an ass out of...just you!

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Originally Posted by Fyrenza

but he's choosing to associate with KNOWN terrorists
for whatever reason
really - even if it's all innocent, WHY would someone in his position do that??? what? is HE brain-dead???

Okay get your facts straight, it's ONE domestic terrorist, one who hasn't even done anything wrong in FOURTY YEARS. One who is now a college professor and prominent figure in Illinois politics. Anyone who was part of the Illinois senate associated with him, anyone who dealt with education laws and reform in Illinois has associated with him, anyone who was part of an anti-poverty group in Chicago associated with him. Obama hasn't even seen much of him since 2002. Obama was an eight year old child when Ayers was part of the Weathermen group. Do you realize has fucking stupid your argument is?

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Originally Posted by Fyrenza

then he starts trying to hold a hand out to our sworn enemies
who think we're all infidels who need to be converted or killed

Oh for fucks sake.

~~Fyrenza~~ · 10-10-2008, 01:09 AM

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Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment".

that takes care of the keating 5

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Mrs Palin has adamantly denied the charges - saying they were politically motivated - and her party's campaign team has called for today's verdict to be delayed until after the Nov 4 presidential election.

and that takes care of troopergate

it would appear to be a non-issue

jibber · 10-10-2008, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Fyrenza

you know, jibber, i just happen to have a little experience with living in a foreign country and going to religious schools
and living around the children who weren't foreigners

he's muslim
and even that would be fine

but he's choosing to associate with KNOWN terrorists
for whatever reason
really - even if it's all innocent, WHY would someone in his position do that??? what? is HE brain-dead???

he's acting like he needs to cover up his past -- again, why? americans don't generally act that way

then he starts trying to hold a hand out to our sworn enemies
who think we're all infidels who need to be converted or killed

hey
i don't mind saying i'm a little suspicious of this guy

haha, aww, that's cute. You have experience living in a foreign country. Well if we're playing that game, I'll play too. I grew up in Saudi Arabia. I lived and worked in Cambodia. I've travelled all over South East Asia, throughout a lot of the middle east, all over europe and in the south pacific. In a few months I will be going to Africa to intern with a journalist who works all over west africa. After graduation I will most likely move to Africa for a while. Now that that's over with, lets get on to the real issues.

Again, please explain to me any SPECIFIC problems you have with Obama. Again, dredging up who he knows and who he associates with as reflections upon him are in no way relevant to any real issue. He holds no similar violent beliefs or tendencies that Ayers once held in the 60's.

I am truly baffled that the only things you seem to know about the election are these weak and irrelevant smears about Obama.

Again, please mention one issue, ANY one issue that concerns any of the other candidates scandals. Both the keating 5 and troopergate are much more serious, in that they are actually real.

~~Fyrenza~~ · 10-10-2008, 01:14 AM

if you're so gung-ho over this person

why aren't you saying anything positive about him?

sell me on him

as things stand right now
my vote is up for grabs

what has obama got that i need?

jibber · 10-10-2008, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Fyrenza

that takes care of the keating 5

and that takes care of troopergate

it would appear to be a non-issue

really? non-issue. well I'll take the troopergate one first. It may be a non-issue if Palin and the republican party were not desperately trying to have the case thrown out. The citizens of Alaska do not seem to think it a non-issue.
here's an article about just that issue.

Judge refuses to halt Troopergate probe: Gov. Sarah Palin | adn.com

Of course Palin claims it to be purely politically motivated. And yet it has been deemed serious enough that there is still a full scale investigation going on, one that has not been denounced as unnecessary and ludicrous by the entire academic world.

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~~Fyrenza~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: high above the Republic of Texas Posts: 216	if you're so gung-ho over this person why aren't you saying anything positive about him? sell me on him as things stand right now my vote is up for grabs what has obama got that i need?