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Old 02-15-2011, 12:46 PM   #851 (permalink)
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I was once a hardcore christian, not a fundie but dedicated.
Up until I got into a conversation about religion with an older man.
And, despite all religions faults and problems, it gives people a sense of purpose and a set of morals and ethics to follow. It gives people friends, an external family, and a goal on how to live their lives. I would not be surprised if religious people died more content than non-religious people simply due to the fact that they feel they have accomplished something, whether that something is fake or real.
It also gives easy answers even though those answers may be wrong and even harmful (about homosexuality, the role of women, slavery).

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When I gave up religion, one of the few things I realized was that life is pointless; you get born, live a short life (which consists of a childhood were you are controlled by your parents then 12 years of schooling, maybe higher learning followed by 40-50 years of working for our two bitches, money and society before finally becoming too old to be of any use to anyone, except verbally) and then die.
That's just life.

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Another thing I realized is that religion makes peoples lives easier and safer.
Tell that to anyone who's ever been stoned to death for adultery, burned as a witch, or tortured to death for heresy.

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The Western world is built on christianity and is a fairly accepting and safe society, imagine if instead it was built on the Aztec religion or Islam?
The western world was built on Christianity, (leading to witch burnings, the Inquisition, the repression of science, the oppression of women, etc) but now it is built on taking those things that we still agree with (thou shallt not kill, love thy neighbor, etc) and ignoring all those things that are inconvenient. Like it or not, Christianity's hold on the western world is dying.


I don't mean to misrepresent your post by ignoring the last part, but the first half of your post was what I wanted to discuss.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 02-15-2011, 12:47 PM   #852 (permalink)
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I may or may not have posted this before, but, god is not real.
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Old 02-15-2011, 12:50 PM   #853 (permalink)
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:43 PM   #854 (permalink)
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It also gives easy answers even though those answers may be wrong and even harmful (about homosexuality, the role of women, slavery).
Yes thats very true. The Abrahamic religions are very much about putting power into the hands of men. Feminine men and gays are a disgrace to men, women must be submissive and quiet, and treating another human being as worse than an animal is A-OK!!

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That's just life.
Yeeaapp, its a pointless and otherwise boring life.


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Tell that to anyone who's ever been stoned to death for adultery, burned as a witch, or tortured to death for heresy.
Don't forget the Crusades....

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The western world was built on Christianity, (leading to witch burnings, the Inquisition, the repression of science, the oppression of women, etc) but now it is built on taking those things that we still agree with (thou shallt not kill, love thy neighbor, etc) and ignoring all those things that are inconvenient. Like it or not, Christianity's hold on the western world is dying.
I should stop posting after 3am, my brain died and stupid comments appear.
You are quite right there, thank you for pointing that out.

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I don't mean to misrepresent your post by ignoring the last part, but the first half of your post was what I wanted to discuss.
Not a problem!
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Old 02-15-2011, 07:41 PM   #855 (permalink)
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Why the Christian God Does Not Exist:
1) God is all knowing
2) God is good
3) God is all powerful

If god is all knowing then he knows everything that will happen, and if he knows everything that will happen, he will use his infinite power to stop any evil before it happens (because he is all good). Therefore, since there's a **** ton of evil in the world, we can conclude that there is no god. Either that or god isn't good.
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Old 02-15-2011, 08:03 PM   #856 (permalink)
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Why the Christian God Does Not Exist:
1) God is all knowing
2) God is good
3) God is all powerful

If god is all knowing then he knows everything that will happen, and if he knows everything that will happen, he will use his infinite power to stop any evil before it happens (because he is all good). Therefore, since there's a **** ton of evil in the world, we can conclude that there is no god. Either that or god isn't good.
Yep, that even has a name: The Problem of Evil.
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Old 02-15-2011, 10:14 PM   #857 (permalink)
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What I find funniest about the christian god is that he "created the universe in 6 days" and then "stopped to rest".

...yes, because divine beings who create universes need to rest too!
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Old 02-17-2011, 07:51 PM   #858 (permalink)
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What I find funniest about the christian god is that he "created the universe in 6 days" and then "stopped to rest".

...yes, because divine beings who create universes need to rest too!
I'm pretty sure that's intended to be a metaphor for the creation of the world. Who knows, maybe the world is so ****ed up because god is still resting.
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Old 02-18-2011, 12:49 PM   #859 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure that's intended to be a metaphor for the creation of the world. Who knows, maybe the world is so ****ed up because god is still resting.
I'm pretty sure it was written by ignorant shephards who didn't have the slightest idea what they were talking about. And if it was a metaphor, it was incredibly irresponsible of them/him/it to give us something so open to interpretation.
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Old 02-18-2011, 12:57 PM   #860 (permalink)
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Lol, considering the incredibly poetic nature of much of the bible it certainly wasn't written by 'ignorant shepherds'.
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